Penn and Teller on Vaccinations

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[StumpyOuch]

@ludwigkirchner08

I believe this is the study you're speaking of:

h ttp :/ /archpsyc.ama-assn. org/cgi/content/abstract/68/11­/1095

"Conclusion Susceptibility to ASD has moderate genetic heritability..."

So to you, the authors statement that the autism spectrum disorder has moderate genetic heritability is proof that autism is NOT genetic? Could you explain that logic to us?

[GashPlague]

This video is awesome. I love Penn (and to a lesser extent, Teller)

[sweetalker79]

@yikeys Back in the days before the vaccine, everyone DID burst into measles. You may not have been around then, but I was, and I don't know anyone my own age who wasn't affected by measles. Most just got by with scars.

"measles deaths fell from 873,000 in 1999 to 530,000 in 2003.. biggest impact was seen in Africa, where measles deaths decreased by 46%.. The disease can leave them with disabilities such as brain damage and blindness" (bioedonline o~R~g /news/ news. cfm?art=1618)

[batigol47]

@ludwigkirchner08 If polio has simply been renamed, where are all of the ventilated children hiding?

You are a dipshit if you think that the CATS study clearly shows that autism is not genetic. Quite the opposite it did not provide significantly different numbers from previous studies and it REINFORCES that genetics is the prominent factor. The ONLY question is one of degree. The issue you seem to have is one of a lacking ability in reading comprehension.

[KajexFiredrake]

@ras12088

By all means, study the issue closely.

But do two things when you do-

1. Be honest and thorough with your findings- don't force a result just because it's the one you want.

2. Don't conflate the -belief- that it -could- be linked as a means by which to propagate the claim that it does- that's something that anti-vaccination/autism proponents do, without regard to scientific fact.

[BillyG800]

@ras12088 correlation does not indicate causation.

[ras12088]

@ludwigkirchner08 I've read a lot on the subject. I worry more about death than autism. i would like to see the "Bullshit" on SID's vs Vaccines. I believe the vaccines could be linked to SIDS. A lot of mothers have made forums online and almost every single one says they're baby died and was acting peculiar after the shots were given, it's sad, many women hold their baby's down to be forced fed shots only to die later.

[StumpyOuch]

@ludwigkirchner08

Because I quoted the part that specifically contradicted what your claim was. Notice that you're deflecting from the fact that you either have abysmal reading comprehension or that you deliberately lied about the conclusion to the study. Which is it?

Let me sum it up for you.

You claimed that this study PROVED autism wasn't genetic. I linked to the study itself which acknowledges a moderate genetic heritability.

You were clearly wrong in your statement.

[SmeeLord]

@ludwigkirchner08 Hey asshole! /watch?feature=player_detailpa­ge&v=oJuf6G5P2_s

[MrJcman100]

@ludwigkirchner08 You touted the CATS study as proof that there’s a link between autism and vaccination otherwise why bring it up here? I called your bullshit and you still haven’t backed your claim. Don’t complicate it with more rhetoric or hurling insults as if it somehow bolsters your weak argument.

Running around claiming conspiracy theories with no proof and basing your immovable opinions on nothing more than the SUSPICIONS of others is counterproductive and plain stupid.