Dear Robin: An open letter

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This video is an open letter to my granddaughter.

Robin, is going on 12-years old. And the failure of her mother (my daughter-in-law) to heed the wisdom of her elders has inspired me to pass some of the things I've learned on to her--hopefully before her mind has been warped with the delusion that causes her to think the elders of our country are ...

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My granddaughter says she already knew what I have tried to tell her in my video. She must have picked up the knowledge from her dad, because the facts I present are not commonly known nor accepted.

In case you are interested, you can read the whole transcript at the following link:

http://unseenstrings.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/dear-robin-an-open-letter-to-my...

Our country has four classes of people who tend to promote "free will." The first is the class of people who have been indoctrinated with Free Will Dogma by the religion they follow. Free will is one of the mainstays of their religious belief. And this class makes up the majority of the individuals within the United States.

The second class is one made up of individuals who are not really religious per se, but were either religious at one time and still retain certain aspects of that belief, or else they lived around religious people and were affected to some degree by the belief system of those people.

The third class of "free will" promoters is made up of people who feel a belief in "free will" is necessary for social order. This class is equivalent to the individuals who assume that if a god doesn't exist as is commonly assumed, then it would be necessary to invent one in order to maintain social order. This third class promotes "free will" as a result of a genetic trait called, "altruism."

The fourth class is made up of individuals who understand some of the mechanisms of human thought and motivation. That is, they realize free will is an illusion. This latter class promotes "free will" in an effort to prevent the public from becoming aware of the strings by which they are manipulated. This fourth class is made up of individuals who previously developed selfish tendencies that overrode natural altruistic tendencies.

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  • @SHIBBYiPANDA, if you search this page for Webster, you'll see I provided the definition of the free will that I say doesn't exists. You cannot logically understand me nor anyone else without first having an understanding of the definitions of the words we use in conversation. Now, how can you be trying to understand "just in case there's something really there" when you cannot define precisely what you are looking for. Define free will for me. Or do you accept my (Webster's) definition?

  • Oh, BTW, you said, "Haha, I know man.. But I'm just trying nonetheless just in case there's something really there to be understood thats just really hard to understand.."

    You know what? Were you already familiar with the arguments given on the pages linked to at my blog? That should have reinforced my answer as to what they think. Besides, eloquent and persuasive rhetoric can convince without evidence. Look at religion. Beware of BBS (befuddling bull shit). Accept only verifiable evidence.

  • If you want more information read my short bio on my YouTube Channel.

  • @SHIBBYiPANDA, my religious education consisted of Sunday School and Vacation Bible School for around the first 15 years of my life. We also had Bible Studies at home once or twice a month. Church Services were usually three times per week during the same period. Seems like I classified myself as non-denomination when I was drafted into the Army. I was a believer but not in the fundamentalist sense. Reading The Bible from cover to cover for the first time at the age of 35 made me skeptical.

  • @unseenstrings Haha, I know man.. But I'm just trying nonetheless just in case there's something really there to be understood thats just really hard to understand..

    Do you mind if I ask your religious education and profession background? I'm not talking about just schooling either :)

    I'm wondering if theres a trend in professions that tend to cause people to lean to one side or the other..

  • Now if you go to my YouTube Channel Page and click on the link to my "Website:" it will take you to my blog at WordPress. Then do a search on that page (unseenstrings wordpress com) for "christianity_freewill" and there you will find three links discussing the issue. The first shows that The Bible teaches Predestination. The second is to a page showing the "Free Will Defense" Christian apologists use to justify evil in the world. The third is a Muslim arguing "free will" is a "paradox."

  • @SHIBBYiPANDA, you're not going to be able to understand the "other side." You see, like some of the other perspectives held by the "other side," they often hold contractive beliefs. They will say, "God knew who you would become and what you would do before he created you." Likewise, they will say, All is already written in the Book of Life." Then they will turn around and claim by means of "free will" you can deviate from the course already written. I guess their god isn't all-knowing after all

  • @unseenstrings u make perfect since and my task now is to try to understand the other side.. That's what I'm trying to do.. It doesn't seem like the traditional idea of freewill makes actually logical sense but I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt and allowing for the possibility that maybe... MAYBE..... it makes sense......

    So I'm trying very hard to make sense of the traditional idea of freewill..

  • @unseenstrings i was saying, ya, its hard for me to imagine how "freewill", in the traditional sense, exists. I'm trying very hard to imagine how it can exist and have been trying to get someone to explain it to me (how the trad idea of freewill exists and is possible). But even going to a traditional Baptist school, the members of which of course believe in the traditional idea of freewill, I can't find anyone who can get it to fit in my head as logical.

    u sir make perfect sense

  • @SHIBBYiPANDA, I'm unsure I answered you concerns because your comment is confusing. Different from the way you imagined it to be as a result of other (other than DBU teachings) previous sensory input? Different from the way taught at Dallas Baptist University? Or different from the way I "said it is?" "'it' being, 'the way things are'"

    If 1000 clones were made from your DNA and scattered around the world, the ONLY difference between the resulting individuals will be the difference in milieus

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