(17/17) Intelligence Squared - We would be better off without religion

Part 17
- Closing Statements
- Anthony Grayling
- Roger Scruton

- Final Vote

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• intelligence
• squared
• religion
• christopher
• hitchens
• richard
• dawkins
• anthony
• grayling
• nigel
• spivey
• julia
• neuberger
• roger
• scruton

[byra8]

Irony: When a Christian uses Hitler to point out how "bad" atheists can be, not realizing he was THE SAME RELIGION AS YOU. The entire idea of genocide of the Jews comes from eastern European CHRISTIAN writings from the late 19th century, before the Nazis.

[Ekenedil]

What?? Hitler was a Catholic. Scruton is a moron!!

[tmafkap]

@byra8 Yupp, and let's not forget that the "judeo-christian tradition" leads to one very interesting question: Why did christians stop killing jews? Some may say that this is a loaded question, to which one should reply: right, but who spend centuries loading it?

[robrock3]

Hitchens even argued in his OPENING argument (parts 1-3) that Stalin, Hitler, Chairman Mao (he mentioned them all by name as well) were not examples of non-religion based atrocity. So Scruton obviously wasn't listening to that bit, and his main final point had already been destroyed in the opening 5 minutes of the debate.

Lol @ Scruton

[marimba94]

Atrocities in the name of Atheism?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WHAT THE FUCK.

The fact that an articulate, well-educated individual can still spew this commonplace bullshit is indicative of how poisonous religion really is.

[zackhanscom]

this is more like objectivists vs solopsists.

[reznor12]

This is my second listen through, Scuton is even more painfull another go round.

[HeWhoAvoidsTheLight]

did stalin not train as a priest?? I think that counts as religious.

[8431123]

Why believe in God, when you can believe in yourself and the natural beauty of the world we live in.

[Mattnesss]

Now ignoring that statement about Hitler for a second. There is this imagine in my mind, a divide between "the good philosopher" and "the bad philosopher". As you can guess Grayling is an example for the good philosopher who makes constructive and comprehensive analysis and arguments. Then there is Scruton with gems like: "The dependence of existence, of being, on some ground."

The incarnation of vacuous philosophical "sounding" gibberish.

[heavymetaldeath4life]

@zerobeat18 You're late...10 months late!

[zerobeat18]

@heavymetaldeath4life Quantum Physics doesn't prove or disprove the existence of pudding, so why does it need to prove or disprove the existence of a god? That's not what it's for.