Subways in cities,birth control,traveling in trains(not the ones going to the fema concentration camps)would help the earth.Europe and the us had reduced their population growth but countries like india,middle east etc. let their populations go wild.Quit spending so much on war and spend on things that are more important.
Let's agree that we disagree. It is impossible to carry on a debate about private property using this method. Your examples, have various flaws in thinking but I believe your intent is good. I am in England at the moment and a bit jet lagged. Put some of your passion into learning about individual liberty. Let me know if you are interested in reading something to shape your opinions.
Let's not forget the obvious downside of pure private ownership - that people may NOT act purely w/ the preservation land equity in mind. Any rich Howard Hughes, Bill Gates, whoever, could buy Yellowstone Park, decide the lost visitor revenue is worth the price of pristine isolation, and then carve a 200ft likeness of his/herself in the face of Half Dome Rock, or to blast Niagra Falls into a wicked tube-slide water park - or just ban black people from visiting.
If the problem is that the State fails to sue land damagers, the solution isn't to sell the land to someone that will. The solution is for the State to act just as any private owner would, & sue. Why don't we do that? Because ideologues hobble government. I'm obviously not saying govt is fully competent & capable often - just that these bumbling free marketeers are only perpetrating self-fulfilling prophecy while being intellectually-dishonest & proclaiming it to be govt's natural product.
I've worked on the periphery of two different public land management groups. A country one at a public park/lake, and once with the National Park/Forest Srvc.
Both were fantastically maintained, the former at an outrageous cost. The latter (90% of which is all fire fighting/prevention funding), was managed much better. The reality is, we could keep those lands well hosted & maintained by essentially private park maintenance groups.
Considering that most public lands are rural, the land's neighbors are typically poor, the cost to those people of investigating/testing & litigating such cases could just be out of their reach. Maybe charities will pro bono the whole thing, but that is a giant assumption.
These hardcore free market libertarian ideas are good in theory, but the way we recklessly implement them w/o public warning and w/o monitoring their development is ludacris. This is why the housing market became distorted.
And in the instance of a near-bankrupt land owner, what happens? A company mines gold or uranium, leaving behind a uranium or asenic polluted aquifer. Neighbors can sue, but if the company is bankrupt, what difference does it make? Even if there is a high-profit use for the land remaining after being mined, it will sit & rot until most similar but non-mined lands become are too expensive by comparison.
That may be 50 or years. All the while, those people's health and property is destroyed.
Developing countries are going to look the other way and give preferential treatment to leasers over neighboring persons, b/c they want the capital to keep moving and/or they're just corrupt. Even if the State chooses not to monitor land leasers, they'll certainly ignore the lamentations of affected neighbors.
Comparing a mess of a developing country to the United States is a more flawed example than my own.
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ComradeSephiroth 3 years ago
who is the host? he's soo cute. omgz xx
UphillBattle17 3 years ago
Subways in cities,birth control,traveling in trains(not the ones going to the fema concentration camps)would help the earth.Europe and the us had reduced their population growth but countries like india,middle east etc. let their populations go wild.Quit spending so much on war and spend on things that are more important.
muttkat 3 years ago
Crock,
Let's agree that we disagree. It is impossible to carry on a debate about private property using this method. Your examples, have various flaws in thinking but I believe your intent is good. I am in England at the moment and a bit jet lagged. Put some of your passion into learning about individual liberty. Let me know if you are interested in reading something to shape your opinions.
Regards,
Erased
erasedcitizen2008 3 years ago
Let's not forget the obvious downside of pure private ownership - that people may NOT act purely w/ the preservation land equity in mind. Any rich Howard Hughes, Bill Gates, whoever, could buy Yellowstone Park, decide the lost visitor revenue is worth the price of pristine isolation, and then carve a 200ft likeness of his/herself in the face of Half Dome Rock, or to blast Niagra Falls into a wicked tube-slide water park - or just ban black people from visiting.
crock703 3 years ago
If the problem is that the State fails to sue land damagers, the solution isn't to sell the land to someone that will. The solution is for the State to act just as any private owner would, & sue. Why don't we do that? Because ideologues hobble government. I'm obviously not saying govt is fully competent & capable often - just that these bumbling free marketeers are only perpetrating self-fulfilling prophecy while being intellectually-dishonest & proclaiming it to be govt's natural product.
crock703 3 years ago
I've worked on the periphery of two different public land management groups. A country one at a public park/lake, and once with the National Park/Forest Srvc.
Both were fantastically maintained, the former at an outrageous cost. The latter (90% of which is all fire fighting/prevention funding), was managed much better. The reality is, we could keep those lands well hosted & maintained by essentially private park maintenance groups.
crock703 3 years ago
Considering that most public lands are rural, the land's neighbors are typically poor, the cost to those people of investigating/testing & litigating such cases could just be out of their reach. Maybe charities will pro bono the whole thing, but that is a giant assumption.
These hardcore free market libertarian ideas are good in theory, but the way we recklessly implement them w/o public warning and w/o monitoring their development is ludacris. This is why the housing market became distorted.
crock703 3 years ago
And in the instance of a near-bankrupt land owner, what happens? A company mines gold or uranium, leaving behind a uranium or asenic polluted aquifer. Neighbors can sue, but if the company is bankrupt, what difference does it make? Even if there is a high-profit use for the land remaining after being mined, it will sit & rot until most similar but non-mined lands become are too expensive by comparison.
That may be 50 or years. All the while, those people's health and property is destroyed.
crock703 3 years ago
Developing countries are going to look the other way and give preferential treatment to leasers over neighboring persons, b/c they want the capital to keep moving and/or they're just corrupt. Even if the State chooses not to monitor land leasers, they'll certainly ignore the lamentations of affected neighbors.
Comparing a mess of a developing country to the United States is a more flawed example than my own.
crock703 3 years ago