@123liveandletlive I would, therefore, call upon you to request that Ms Marra be more objective in her condemnation because this looks like a cynical attempt at political trouble making. And it is a shame that Ms Marra has seen fit to hijack this issue for some of the most obvious partisan politicking I have seen in a long time. Perhaps when that is done we can have a proper discussion of the underlying issues.
@123liveandletlive Seeing as this is a video posted by a politician it is rather difficult to avoid the obvious political agenda don’t you think? It has been pointed out to Ms Marra that it is NOT in the gift of Dundee City Council to reinstate a bus service when the subsidy offered to the private company is not sufficient for it to continue to run it. No mention is made of this FACT in the video.
I'm not sure that the "leisure department" has buses. Schools charter buses from private companies to take pupils from school to sporting facilities, etc. I have no problems with what ever they wish to do as long as it doesn't cost us a brass bean more. This bus company has the council at their mercy. Why does St John's not use some of their budget to further subsidise the bus?
It matters not that a bus is standing idle if it owned by a profit making organisation.
@charliemyboy100 Apologies - moving away from anyones political agendas, I think we are missing the point here that its the pupils who are bearing the brunt in all this. The parents are only trying to make the point that if the Council and bus company work together, a solution can be reached. The removal of the 4S without any consultation with the parents or school & the alternative 26 in its place does not work. Neither does taking 2 buses (4 in total) to and from school work.
@davie1238 One suggestion could be: The Council can work in partnership with other departments i.e Lesiure, whose buses sit idle during the morning and evening runs - how about bringing those vehicles to help out the pupils in the morning and evening? Parents are still willing to pay or buy bus passes for that transport. Not asking for free transport. I'm sure if the Education Dept, Council, Parents & Bus co cooperate - a good solution can come out of this for the pupils.
The education department did support the children getting to school, by subsidising a bus. Then the private company which runs the bus network put up the price. The council can't afford it. Simple as that.
Can you suggest what the council should cut in order to subsidise the huge profits that National Express makes?
@123liveandletlive I think you are mixing me up with another commenter there. I think I have made what I am saying perfectly clear. If you want to discuss that fine, please feel free to do so. But can you firstly limit yourself to things I have actually said and secondly try to remain on topic or at least understandable, so many mixed messages are hard to follow!
@charliemyboy100 But the education dept is the responsibility of the City Council & the pupils getting to school on time, without stress of being late for exams. Surely the education dept should support parents/pupils on this and the choice of school parents wish to send their kids to, even if another school sits in the back yard of the pupils from West End. The school of choice the pupils attend -St Johns is the feeder school to the primary the pupils attended - thus the bus issue.
The Council subsidised the bus. The greedy company wasn't happy with the subsidy. They wanted more. If the hard stretched council (in a mess because of the Tories inappropriate reaction to Labour's mess) do give them more, they will ask for yet more next year. Eventually all our council tax will go to pay for these poor wee things to go to school in Lochee when there is a good school only just up the road. We're living in the UK, not Norway.
@123liveandletlive I would point out that I was commenting on the video posted here on youtube by Ms Marra and her clarion call to Dundee City Council to “re-instate” the 4S. Also on her attempt to blow this matter out of all proportion by jumping on a bandwagon in order to make political mischief despite, I understand, being told by numerous people that buses in Dundee are the remit of a private company and not the council.
@123liveandletlive I would, therefore, call upon you to request that Ms Marra be more objective in her condemnation because this looks like a cynical attempt at political trouble making. And it is a shame that Ms Marra has seen fit to hijack this issue for some of the most obvious partisan politicking I have seen in a long time. Perhaps when that is done we can have a proper discussion of the underlying issues.
charliemyboy100 4 months ago
@123liveandletlive Seeing as this is a video posted by a politician it is rather difficult to avoid the obvious political agenda don’t you think? It has been pointed out to Ms Marra that it is NOT in the gift of Dundee City Council to reinstate a bus service when the subsidy offered to the private company is not sufficient for it to continue to run it. No mention is made of this FACT in the video.
charliemyboy100 4 months ago
I'm not sure that the "leisure department" has buses. Schools charter buses from private companies to take pupils from school to sporting facilities, etc. I have no problems with what ever they wish to do as long as it doesn't cost us a brass bean more. This bus company has the council at their mercy. Why does St John's not use some of their budget to further subsidise the bus?
It matters not that a bus is standing idle if it owned by a profit making organisation.
davie1238 4 months ago
@charliemyboy100 Apologies - moving away from anyones political agendas, I think we are missing the point here that its the pupils who are bearing the brunt in all this. The parents are only trying to make the point that if the Council and bus company work together, a solution can be reached. The removal of the 4S without any consultation with the parents or school & the alternative 26 in its place does not work. Neither does taking 2 buses (4 in total) to and from school work.
123liveandletlive 4 months ago
@davie1238 One suggestion could be: The Council can work in partnership with other departments i.e Lesiure, whose buses sit idle during the morning and evening runs - how about bringing those vehicles to help out the pupils in the morning and evening? Parents are still willing to pay or buy bus passes for that transport. Not asking for free transport. I'm sure if the Education Dept, Council, Parents & Bus co cooperate - a good solution can come out of this for the pupils.
123liveandletlive 4 months ago
The education department did support the children getting to school, by subsidising a bus. Then the private company which runs the bus network put up the price. The council can't afford it. Simple as that.
Can you suggest what the council should cut in order to subsidise the huge profits that National Express makes?
davie1238 4 months ago
@123liveandletlive I think you are mixing me up with another commenter there. I think I have made what I am saying perfectly clear. If you want to discuss that fine, please feel free to do so. But can you firstly limit yourself to things I have actually said and secondly try to remain on topic or at least understandable, so many mixed messages are hard to follow!
charliemyboy100 4 months ago
@charliemyboy100 But the education dept is the responsibility of the City Council & the pupils getting to school on time, without stress of being late for exams. Surely the education dept should support parents/pupils on this and the choice of school parents wish to send their kids to, even if another school sits in the back yard of the pupils from West End. The school of choice the pupils attend -St Johns is the feeder school to the primary the pupils attended - thus the bus issue.
123liveandletlive 4 months ago
The Council subsidised the bus. The greedy company wasn't happy with the subsidy. They wanted more. If the hard stretched council (in a mess because of the Tories inappropriate reaction to Labour's mess) do give them more, they will ask for yet more next year. Eventually all our council tax will go to pay for these poor wee things to go to school in Lochee when there is a good school only just up the road. We're living in the UK, not Norway.
davie1238 4 months ago
@123liveandletlive I would point out that I was commenting on the video posted here on youtube by Ms Marra and her clarion call to Dundee City Council to “re-instate” the 4S. Also on her attempt to blow this matter out of all proportion by jumping on a bandwagon in order to make political mischief despite, I understand, being told by numerous people that buses in Dundee are the remit of a private company and not the council.
charliemyboy100 4 months ago