Emerging vs. Emergent

Interview with Mark Driscoll for Desiring God 2006 National Conference

(source: www.desiringgod.org/news_events/dgm_national/2006/videos.html)

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• emergent
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[juuush]

Well I definitely think you worded your "expression of opinion" rather harshly. You're not helping to make the world a better place by cutting down men of God without valid reasoning. When Ps Driscoll "attacks" Joel Osteen or Mark Bell (and even in those instances he always states that he loves them as brothers in Christ and doesn't intend to bring them down), he backs it up with Biblical quotation, with the truth of the Word.

I'll defend Driscoll while he stands on God's truth unwaveringly.

[johnshelley120]

Its interesting that hardly any of the responding comments have anything to do with the actual topic of the video, which is the emerging church. Christianity is an easy target, so I suppose its not surprising to see base attacks with little intellectual honesty.

[onemarktwoyou]

Gee, you make church a politically correct place to go and you think its not going to lose after a slight upswing? You drive out the true believers and leave the heretics in the wake. Then you don't understand why people don't read the bible? It is for the sure fact that if you read the bible today it says the opposite that the preacher says. So pick your G_d! The one in the bible or the one your preacher created for you. For me and mine we will stick to the one true G_D.

[darthfocus]

WRONG,. the answers aren't emerging, believers look like believers 1 peter 2. The culture was dead and wicked 2000 years ago and Christians need to follow the example in scripture, there is no new secret missional (bogus word) formula.Preach the gospel, live the gospel, love Jesus and the brethren, honor all men, etc... God didn't change the plan just because people have iphones and drink post modern coffee.

[StormTrek]

One of the things I like about Driscoll is that he speaks clearly. I don't agree with him but at least I understand what he's talking about. Some of the emerging church guys use Christian-speak but never fill you in on exactly what they mean. It's like you fill in the blanks with whatever you happen to think they mean.

[homestar4ever]

I like how the desiring God logo is now on every youtube video (go fullscreen and then look at the zoom out logo).

[daveme7]

In the end-I claim fundamentaliusm and Calvinism while also a Baptist-in the 19th cemntury in Washington, PA baptizing the Campbellite group-if they decided to call themselves Baptist-I think most Baptists would repudiate that name.

Not sure if it is a shamr a shame-stay away from this guy. I wander if he ever shares the name of the philosophy used such as emergent evolution.

[daveme7]

@juuush Try Jesus Christ, he is so much better than Phil Drischoll

[masterkeep]

@waluum I am not challenging the message of Luther's hymns, just the tune that they follow. Luther was acting as the "4th wave" of emerging in that he took the familiar music of the day and added words that taught the gospel. That is what Mark is talking about here, just not with music only. The message content isn't what they are changing, just the language of the culture for comprehension. For example, Jesus used agrarian language that our bible translators even don't understand [Jn 15:2].

[waluum]

@masterkeep : what is the "message" but the substance of it? Do you deny the substance of Luther's hymns? You seem to in calling them "bar tunes". Would emulating the shortcomings of the modern world as a twist on the message of Christ truly be able to preserve the substance of that message? How will anyone love Christ if they reject His substance, which permeated the old church culture far more than an emerging one that seeks to compromise it (putting success in conversion above holiness)?

[Pfsif]

"in need of the Church", no people are in need of Christ Mr. Clergy guy. People need Christ not Church, He does not dwell in temples made with hands.