Limit Point of Observation Advanced Motorcycle Training

I do not know if this will work, but I just found this 2006 footage, which looks at the Limit Point of Oberservation. I have tried to highlight some point with graphics, do not know if it will work on the small screen. Before anyone asks.......The rider Alison who is on a CCM Supermoto was only with me for a couple of hours. One of her weak areas was bend assessment. hence the introduction of the limit point and advanced positioning. She was not perfect but at the end of the day her riding was more prgressive and smooth. She felt more confident.

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[TheCOLLIE38]

Excellent video, Nigel!! :-) I am doing a motorcycle course for the emergency services at present. The instructor kept going on about "limit points" on bends and I hadn't a clue what he was talking about...So it confused me and nearly caused me to collide with a tanker on a bend. It was only after watching your vid on limit points did I realise what he was talking about. Thanks for that Nigel! All your vids are a great help to me at the moment. Great instruction and excellent explanations too.

[advancedbiker]

@TheCOLLIE38 Thanks for the feedback. Good luck on the course. Let me know how you get on, and if you need any more help, please keep in touch.

[TheCOLLIE38]

@advancedbiker Thanks Nigel. But got the bad news yesterday...didn't pass the course, mainly due to nerves. Poor road positioning and incorrect gears brought me down :-( But I've been invited back on the next course. Fingers crossed, Nigel! ;-)

[advancedbiker]

@TheCOLLIE38 - Never mind, expereince gained..... You can private message me if you need a hand. Did the gears have a direct effect on positioning ?

[advancedbiker]

@TheCOLLIE38 - Never mind, expereince gained..... You can private message me if you need a hand. Did the gears have a direct effect on positioning ?

[spearfysh]

Thank you for these videos. I have had your voice in my head many times when riding, especially in areas that are unfamiliar. I'm not to proud to say I have made some stupid mistakes in my assessment of some bends and I seem to have a bias towards left hand bends, they just don't seem as natural or flow as well? But to be in position to know why I made those mistakes means I must have learnt something so thanks again.

[Potato0verlord]

thanks for the clip, very helpful

[advancedbiker]

@thepeahead987 When I say going away - It relates to the LImit Point of Observation, whilst negotiating the curve if the Limit Point starts to move...It is going away. The phrase 'Friendly Curve', came from a client who said to me one day,' That was a Friendly Bend'. In otherwords a good one, good view in and out, can be PLANNED for, one tha you can be prepared for bfore commiting to it.....

[thepeahead987]

@advancedbiker i am confused by what you mean when it you say its going away, and friendly curve?? cheers

[TheCOLLIE38]

@advancedbiker would love to email you for advice, if that's ok, Nigel!! What's your email address,please? I was mostly driving in 3rd gear on a 700cc motorbike along country roads...which consisted of most of the course.

[advancedbiker]

@prettyboyfloydrules - I can see where you are coming from, but in my experience they is a vast difference between between Police Trained riders and non Police riders. Today too much traffic on the road to safely do it.

[advancedbiker]

@prettyboyfloydrules Thanks for the comment. Positioning for left hand bends and using the opposite carriageway, is a way of extending you view,but I always ask myself is it really necessary atthe speeds you are surposed to travel at, ie, within the posted speed limits. I for one do not encourage such positioning.