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[TheNeonKnight]

Personally I have a problem with letting big businesses try to take my money when I'm unwell.

I also have a fundamental problem with allowing a society to exist that doesn't provide healthcare if people can't afford it. Healthcare should be a fundamental thing that every single person should be getting, regardless of wealth. I like the concept of national healthcare. I like the idea that everybody contributes a small amount to the system, and everybody also benefits from it. It's more fair.

[ellmc95]

like medicare and medicaid except for not everybody also benefits from it. medicare have to wait to 65.medicaid have to be in a certain income bracket. funny thing is, every working person pays for someone's healthcare ,just paying for it down the road. but nobody complains about that. SPH should be a option

[ICTN218]

@avebabe

Appeal to Etymology, the etymology of a word has no bearing on the position of one who uses the word; if anything, I should simply purport to be a progressive here. I could just as easily call myself a 'happinessist' and say that if you support the state, you are against happiness; this is, of course, fallacious.

[ICTN218]

@avebabe

Of course businesses will profit more if more people are sick, but how is that relevant? Remember, if they intentionally make people get sick, they are criminals in an anarchist society for initiating force or fraud.

Perhaps it does grant everyone treatment, but in a free market, almost everybody would be able to afford healthcare as well; the high prices today are a result of regulations. Better yet, the healthcare would be of higher quality and would not necessitate theft.

[ICTN218]

@avebabe

You're making the assumption that regulation substantially lowers prices. The reality is that regulations reduce competition by creating barriers to entry, giving the paucity of remaining healthcare companies the capability to raise prices without worrying as much about competing businesses undercutting them. In the system I advocate, if a company stopped caring about increasing profits and raised their prices, they'd lose all of their customers to competitors who charged less.

[avebabe]

As an anarchist, i guess you're against progressivism as well.. Meaning you're against society making any forward progress.

[avebabe]

So what you're saying is that we should eliminate regulation so that all insurance companies will be making so much money, they wont have any incentive to be penny pinchers which will drive down prices..

Keeping the healthcare system as a business incentive merely keeps America's health (or lack of) a loss of 'profit'. Socialized Medicine is just promising the right for treatment unanimously.

[jim80NES]

let's go Bernie!

[ICTN218]

I'd like to add that the primary reason for which I advocate free markets (and consequently, anarchy) is not the utilitarian justifications which I give here, but it is the argument that taxation is theft. Since the universal healthcare system (AND the fascist American model) is funded via taxation, i.e. theft, I reject it.

[ICTN218]

I definitely wouldn't deny that the American system is a disaster, but I'm simply suggesting an alternative solution. Right now, costs are high because corporations buy politicians, who enact regulations to restrict competition, creating near-monopolistic conditions, where the prices can be increased. The solution is to eliminate the regulations, so competition can drive the prices down.

Also, it's worth noting that most of those who are uninsured can afford it, but choose not to.

[avebabe]

@ICTN218 These are lives we are talking about, leave the free market out of it. I'm from Detroit, and A LOT of people in the area need this. In a place with enough problems of its own, people are being crippled (pun intended) economically by simply trying to be able to afford their medication.. Medication that is being sold at a fraction of the cost in other places (like cuba.) All while there is a sensationally high number of people who cant afford insurance who are just screwed