Liberty Launch Vehicle - ATK and Astrium Combine Shuttle Solid Rocket Booster and Ariane 5
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With both segments of this booster already operational, lead time should be VERY low to get this configuration flying!!
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@marmaladekamikaze Its called "Falcon Heavy" (no 9 in the name) and its simply 3 Falcon 9's put together. SaturnV could only afford to lose the middle of its 5 main engines or it would be a catastrophic failure. If Shuttle lost an SRB it would get ripped a part. If Shuttle lost one main engine it would be an abort scenario and it would have to land in Europe because Shuttle barely had enough thrust to get itself and its cargo to LEO when all is working.
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Have you even seen the design for the Falcon 9 heavy? The Shuttle main engines SSME and the F-1 engines of the Apollo era could, contrary to what you claim, deal with an engine cutout/failure and still reach LEO.
For someone who points the finger about comparing apples and watermelons, you sure do it a lot yourself. Furthermore you are claiming the Falcon 9 is superior to flight tested vehicles Shuttle & Saturn, we'll see how reliable the Falcon 9 is when it flies 135 times
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@marmaladekamikaze Your comparing apples to watermelon and could not be more wrong. Soyuz has 6 engines and "40" nozzles w/well over 2000 flights. N1 was a giant and had 30 main engines. Failure was complex plumbing, and lack of funding for full-up testing. N1 could not turn off engines if there was an issue. Falcon9 can turn off any of its engines mid flight. Shuttle and Apollo flights would have been a failure if one engine was lost. Falcon9 can turn off up to 2 and still reach LEO.
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The APCP propellant in solid rocket motors is not classified as an explosive. Tripoli won a famous court battle about this.
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Falcon 9 will be the safest thing out there until it succumbs to the same complexity faults that plagued the USSR's failed N-1 rocket. Lots of engines = higher chance of failure.
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great idea!!!
strange...it looks A LOT like the ares 1.
decemberdazzle 10 months ago 7
Safest, most reliable available? Maybe at Lockheed martin. What would make it safe is to NOT use solid rocket fuel. Thus, you don't need a heavy list rocket for an attempt at an escape system to get fare enough away from an SRB failure. Also, if you clustered engines allowing individual engines to shut down would add more safety. Also, changing the design to it did not have to balance itself like a javelin would also help. Right now Falcon9 is "by far" the safest thing out there.
ti994apc 9 months ago 6