Donna Crouch - Philippians 2:5-11

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[lisskiss18]

kwam hier het lied ´ this is our god´ achteraan? ...

[larsball1]

@lisskiss18 ik denk het, ben niet helemaal zeker

[larsball1]

@emls01 Okay, I really see that almost all your faith is based upon the 'goodness' of people.

And as long as it's like that, your faith will be built on sand idd in stead of on the rock!

I can't help you, God can! And there is no thing or person that's between YOU and GOD... It's up to you I think, lay all the depression and agression in Gods hands... Good luck with it

[emls01]

@larsball1 i don't know if i even believe in god anymore. why would god allow so much pain into my life? i'm not sure about any of it anymore. how can pastors who work for church and claim to be close to god be so indifferent to how i feel. so yes, i've sailed away from god. i feel let down by hillsong, the pastors and god. i feel theres no use anymore, no point. i think hillsong is not a good church to let down people so badly, i want to tell people that because hillsong just dont care.

[emls01]

@larsball1 i told 3 seperate hillsong pastors exactly how i feel and how i can't cope with the stress and problems any more. Three. i told each of them i was having suicide thoughts. they keep looking at there watches and acting like it should be up to me to manage all the problems by reading the bible which is kind of like, well why are you pastors then? if everyone can read a bible to help themselves, why do we need a church and pastors? they were not interested in helping. i am so sad.

[larsball1]

@emls01 I don't think I'm judgemental now, I'm just asking you a few things

So why don't you tell those pastors what you feel? The things you are saying here.

But I really do hope that you're not sailing further and further away from God because of all this... The most important thing is that your faith is between you and God, and not between you and other people. We, people, are not perfect, nobody, so there will be a lot of times people will let you down, even christian, sometimes even more.

[emls01]

@larsball1 i am someone who would like to tell people who think hillsong is a wonderful caring church that it is not true in my case. Maybe it is for some, but not for me. Hillsong didn't care about me and I gave the church time and money for years. No, i don't have many friends left these days which is why i turned to the church for prayer and support. i thought i could count on the pastors to show me care, they didn't. don't be so judgmental, you have no idea what i'm going through

[larsball1]

@emls01 Do you have friends? Because for me, my friends care about me the most, and God! Not some place I go to and pay money, and hope they care about me...

Hillsong is amazing, and I know a lot of people who went there for years, they had an amazing time, and they learned a lot about God, people, music, ...

And who are you actually, to talk bad about other people? Especially to the whole world that's on youtube? Isn't a meaning something personal? Who are you to push it?

God bless you!

[emls01]

she has her page on Hillsong website about R U OK day and how much Hillsong care about suicide...blah...blah...blah. Well let me tell you, Hillsong Church do not care when people are on the verge of wanting to end it all. Their pastors DO NOT CARE. Do not make the mistake I did and go to Hillsong and give them money. Because when you really need help and support from Hillsong, they act like it's nothing to do with them and turn their backs on you.

THANKS HILLSONG FOR NOTHING!!!!!!!!!

[raygabmiamizzi]

As always Donna.