KETC | Living St. Louis | Loop Streetcars

From KETC, LIVING ST. LOUIS Producer Jim Kirchherr explores the possibility of having streetcars return to St. Louis. Today, two vintage streetcars are on display—one at the Missouri History Museum in Forest Park and the other in the University City loop. A group of people wants to bring them back to St. Louis to boost tourism and city development, as well as offer an alternate means of transportation.

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[SpaceVulcan]

Used to run in Milan? Ha, they are still very much running! Some are way past 8 yrs old btw, and running smoothly at that: it's much easier to see newer streetcars broken than these old bangers!

[AGandDL]

It's coming! 2013!



[ArtStone]

Trolleys were also relied on heavily by the central planners of the Soviet Union. Public control of all means of transportation is one of Engel's principles of Communism from the 1800s. Destroying GM and private vehicle ownership fits right in with that plan.

[Tubes12AX7k]

Smart zoning is probably the #1 issue. There should be greater encouragement for corner stores, pharmacies, and barber shops to be located adjacent to, or in neighborhoods, the way it used to be.

[Tubes12AX7k]

I'll hit a few of the comments here in one swoop: 1) the "economic reasons" for buses was dependent on cheap oil - which is largely gone. 2) BOTH main streets and rail right-of-ways need to be protected to discourage sprawl. 3) Careful zoning and incentives will encourage malls, light industry, and corner stores to locate along the right-of-ways. 4) Encourage people & small businesses to locate on these routes rather than build new roads. 5) Relax, you can still keep your car.

[Greggo2]

For all you economic streetcar deniers in the U.S., please explain to me why Toronto continues to have lots of streetcars? Until I moved to the suburbs, I took the 501 Queen car to work.

[Corvettably]

Taken for a Ride was based heavily on Snell's work and his "facts". Perhaps you should read Cliff Slater's pier reviewed article on the subject. I would also suggest reading some some of the other authors who have pointed out why streetcars in particular declined in the US for simple economic reasons. If nothing else, please explain how GM, who at best had interest in no more than 10% of US streetcar Co's could have killed off the other near 90%? Simply logic says GM didn't do it. Facts do too.

[Corvettably]

You should actually bother to read up on some history first. GM didn't have anything to do with the decline of streetcars. Simple economics did them in. A second rate lawyer trying to make his way in DC (Snell) was the one who spread the crap about GM in order to further his own objectives. The myth has been debunked but a number of people haven't bothered to read the follow up articles.

Looks like you are one of them.

[aldoso2]

I don't understand why the milan trams have changed their number

[piratef2004]

With the Success of the F-Line in San Francisco. I can not see how St. Louis can pass this opportunity. It will be successful if done right.