Dear Post-Modernists, you make no sense

Concerning a video from bedtimewithalunatic...

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[TexanProgressive]

How do Objectivists rectify their views of objective realism with quantum mechanics?  When there is no clear cut distinction between subject and object, then the idea of objective realism is dead in the water. Even special relativity shows that time intervals and simultaneity are subjective, not objective.

[MrCropper]

"How do Objectivists rectify their views of objective realism with quantum mechanics? "

See my video titled "Problems in Modern Physics" and my playlist on David Bohm.

[Samanmotlagh]

I'm sorry to say. But it really doesn't take much philosophical insight to realise how terrible objectivism is.

[MrCropper]

"I'm sorry to say. But it really doesn't take much philosophical insight to realise how terrible objectivism is."

Spare me.

No, wait... tell me. Just a little. Please?

[TheDogRibs]

The dog ribs here.Calling fellow youtubers Hitler is a faulty analogy,a hasty generalization,and naive.You don't know anything about the methods of those regimes or how they came to power.I'd suggest you go spend a decade at the library or traveling the world.You're attitude of shut up to an open dialogue is dictatorial.Fascism comes in many voices and forms,and your brand of one-dimensional thinking is where it starts.

[MrCropper]

"Fascism comes in many voices and forms,and your brand of one-dimensional thinking is where it starts."

In what way are my ideas fascistic? Or are you just smearing me?

[Samanmotlagh]

Well. The only axiom which is objectively true, is the axiom of existence. The law of identity might be very reasonable, yet not necesarrily objectively true. Logic cannot be justified by logic.

Rand begins a cartesian project without realising what descartes himself realised. So, objectivism builds a belief system of being objectively true, on premises which aren't. I can't even comprehend how dismissive objectivists are of skepticism.

[TheCarruths]

I appreciate your transparent bid for a return to relevance. How long has it been since you received a collective, or even concerted, response? I suggest an increased focus on comedy, as I suspect that beneath your frustrated pundit exterior beats the heart of a n equally frustrated, but more effective, comedian. You did get me with the "something bizarre... like an idea" line. Pure gold.

[DrPtrVenkman]

"...And the ghosts attack the castle" metaphor from your other video. May I add you sound drunk.

[r74quinn]

@Samanmotlagh IANA philosopher, but axioms are supposed to be self-evident facts that form an inescapable basis for any further philosophic discussion. So Objectivism's axioms of existence, identity, and consciousness must be utilized by any philosopher that tries to refute them, contradicting his attempt to do so.

[JohananRaatz]

@MrCropper (continued) But other than what you don't know about Bohm's ideas. (It saves determinism, but adds in something far worse from an Objectivist point of view) and our disagreement about Platonism nice video. The post-modernists are complete idiots. Literally if you look at their arguments they are recycled almost verbatim from the ancient Athenian sophists.

[JohananRaatz]

@TexanProgressive "How do Objectivists rectify their views of objective realism with quantum mechanics?"

The only way around that is to assert that objectivity is based on Platonism. Penrose does this when he says that the quantum information collapsed out of the wave-function is Platonic in nature. Though of course this is problematic to Objectivists who reject Platonism.

[JohananRaatz]

@MrCropper "my playlist on David Bohm."

I'm going to get back to my debate on Platonism soon -been busy recently, but I DID see your videos on Bohm and I liked them.

I even have some of his ideas integrated in my quantum gravity theory. It meshes VERY NICELY with the holographic universe notion. However I'm not certain you are going to like him once I show you where his ideas go. Hint ask the other Objectivist Dhorpatan what he makes of Bohm and his "Implicate Order" idea. ;)

[JeffersonDinedAlone]

The term "post-modernist" is meaningless, in the first place. What is modern is the present, the here and now, the what is at this time. What is after that (post) will never exist because whenever "then" is will only be the present. The two concepts ("post" and "modern") are not compatible because they can't exist together.

[dmeybohm]

@Samanmotlagh If the axiom of identity is not true than the argument against the axiom of identity can't be true either, so that means skepticism isn't a path to any kind of knowledge if it denies the validity of the axiom of identity.

[ebsilver3]

@ebsilver3 lunatic*****

[ebsilver3]

you are incoherent. settle down and ask clarification questions, then if there is a reasonable objection to be made...make it. Otherwise you sound like and angry rambling lunitic

[SpazzzDog]

Bohmian mechanics has its problems and it doesn't fully account for the indeterministic and non-classical behaviors of quantum mechanics. There are some things which simply can't be explained through aclassical formulation, like super fluids. But this denial of reality is simply an example of Objectivism's predilection to close the mind to alternative ideas, especially those which contradict its assumptions, as I pointed out in a comment on your "closing american mind" video.