Errors of Dawkins and Atheism: Original Video

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[NadNareek]

"Atheism is a disease of the soul, before it becomes an error of the understanding." - Plato

[NadNareek]

Societal ideas of value are based on custom and sometimes usefulness.Instrinsic value is different and cannot be assigned without a divine declaration. Example: Humans are a parasite infestation of earth, and it is therfore a moral imperative to exterminate them (or at least cull the human herd) to save other intrinsicaly valuable species.

Make an argument against it.

[SiGhast]

You could take this very basic instinct and filter it through time. We're an increasingly intelligent species, and our priorities, our instincts (and from there feelings), become more and more complex by the years. What we have in the case of animals is, in the end, interchangeable with affection.

As far as I am concerned, everything came from our survival instinct and became much more than that with time. It has clearly come to a point where we have trouble attributing it.

[NadNareek]

@SiGhast a bold and humble admission for an atheist.

[SiGhast]

This isn't necessarily an arguement for atheism, but it's a thought this brought up.

Did we or did we not decide the value of CURRENCY ourselves? Was that, too, God's doing? If it was us, could we not apply value to what we, essentially, WANT to? Along these lines, we are also seperating the value of a rock from the value of gold. Not that these two have any ACTUAL worth; we've chosen it.

Of course THIS isn't an issue of morality, but see those as basics of value.

[NadNareek]

@SiGhast societal values are based on custom and sometimes usefulness.....instrinsic value is different and this is what cannot be assigned without a divine declaration......example: humans are a parasite infestation of earth and it is a moral imperative to exterminate them (or at least cull the herd) to save other intrinsicaly valuable species.....make an argument against it.

[PortCharmers]

@NadNareek Do you believe in Zeus?

[PortCharmers]

@NadNareek You are right, humanity is an ecological desaster, and if we want to show any respect to nature (YOU would call it god's creation), we must change our ways. I am not even mentioning the fact that we are cutting off the branch we are sitting on, and when it snaps, that will force us to change.

[DawkinsDebunked]

hello

[45H3R4H]

Having an orderly society and helping one another is an evolutionary trait that heavily benefits our survival rates. A disorderly society and harming one another will greatly lower our survival rates. We are simply pack animals programmed to survive. Some people may get away with murder. It may not be pretty or fair, but that is REALITY. Your atoms will go on to become something else when you cease being you.

[reichtum168j]

First is to give evidence that there is a god as a real creature. If you have soul and there is afterlife, how how will you live in the afterlife, another 14.4 billion years. Why god could create a talking snake in the myth, and why not now, when many human beings believe the non-existence of god, then the omnipotent should create real miracle to show the existence of god, that his son promised to come back, but after 2000 years nothing and never will happen. Wake up from your dreams, please !

[mrjjking77]

@NadNareek Religion for you is I think a good thing. You're clearly very troubled.

[fab42]

Christians commit heiness crimes as well.....mostly by hiding behind their religion.

Google Catholic priest scandels

Jim Bakker

Jimmy Swaggart

Ted Haggard

Oral Roberts

the list goes on and on.

Atheists are regular hard working...loving .....kind to children and animals...folks just like so-called Christians.....we just have a personal relationship with reality is all.

No crime in that.

Going to church no more makes you a good person than standing in a garage makes you a car.

[Inverita1]

@SiGhast Hello, i'm not trying to argue your point, mainly because I agree with a good portion of it,  but want to add a topic of consideration. Even if emotions are a response to survival instincs and assuming it can be clearly attributed, nature still holds no bias towards complex forms compared to simpler forms..

If value is added by the involved parites, it becomes a subjective issue, negating true worth and only expressing a given worth. Making man, animals, and rocks equal.

[marsCubed]

@NadNareek "a bold and humble admission"

No it's not, religious or not, outside of ultra conservative religions, most would agree. Your argument requires a cynical view of humanity and selfish imperative originating in religion itself.

Humans are social..

I'm in Europe, the vast majority here believe in evolution, have little or no religion (God as Nature a common concept).

criminals (damaged pp & nuts) is what law & social services are for.

Places with least crime usually the least religious.