Ken Miller talks about the bacterial flagellum

Ken Miller discusses the error of the 'poster child' of intelligent design. He discusses the evolutionary history of the bacterial flagellum and how the parts both in groups and alone have function in other processes than the flagellum which is directly contradicts the idea of 'irreducible complexity.'

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News & Politics

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• Evolution
• creation
• intelligent
• design
• irreducible
• complexity
• bacterial
• flagellum
• id

[foxlake02]

@davidphiliplewis A friend gave me "Expelled" to watch. I thought it may have some scientific evidence but not a single speck of evidence was presented. Only whining scientists who lost their job or didn't get a promotion because they were dishonest or not very good at their job. Stein twisted and distorted it to look as though they got persecuted. Very disappointing movie. No more gobbledygook from me. Do your own homework.

[TheRealDetoNato]

@theot58

"DARWINIAN/MACRO EVOLUTION IS A FAIRYTALE FOR GROWNUPS.

IT HAS NOT BEEN OBSERVED, MEASURED OR REPEATED - IT IS SIMPLY BELIEVED."

It has been observed and it is not a believe. Stop talking about pseudo science and stop talking about the creation dream. If the creation would be true science would already proved that. But in fact evolution is the only possible and proved explonation and I guess you know nothing about macro and micro evolution. Please read an article on Wikipedia first.

[technicallyabsurd]

This begs the question, what if you take 25 parts away? 34? 16? Would it make something different, or am I thinking about this wrong?

[daogdaog]

@truvelocity Have you tried removing that bacterial flagellum tail-like part then observed that it survived?

[truvelocity]

@daogdaog " Or find a living bacterial flagellum with missing parts." - If you are smart enough to know that we have to find a living bacteria that has each missing part and is surviving, then why the hell do you not know they already have found them? - Simple... You don't want to know!

[daogdaog]

There is no need for an uninterested judge to decide matters he cannot understand well. Let biologists remove parts of bacterial flagellum and see it it will survive. Or find a living bacterial flagellum with missing parts.

[TheFutureUnquiet]

(1) Neither of the "HIV-antibody" tests -- the Elisa or the Western Blot -- has ever been properly validated, which means that no one knows what their results mean. The tests are chemical reactions to antigens, which are substances that provoke an immune response. Many dozens of conditions can produce a positive result on these tests, including drug abuse, flu vaccinations, past infection

[TheFutureUnquiet]

(2) with malaria, pregnancy, and liver disease. Nevertheless, physicians still use these worthless tests, assume that positive results mean HIV infection, and give their patients doom-diagnoses of "HIV-positive" or "AIDS". 'AIDS: A Death Cult' by John Lauritsen

[redlionhart]

@TheFutureUnquiet That's because humans are a scourge to this planet and must be eliminated.

[Boss5414]

You know, I'm actually appreciative, in a way, that Creationists are die-hard critics of science. They spot (on occasion) fallacies of some things that are kind of iffy with science, and Science rises to the challenge of answering their question (so long as it isn't ludicrous, for example "prove for certain God didn't create the universe initially")

[Drgamedood]

Ken Miller FTW. One of my favorite evolutionary biologists. :)