Van Jones: Ethanol raises food prices, hurts the poor

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Van Jones explains why Ethanol raises the price of food (by linking corn to oil prices) and thus hurts the poor.
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http://www.thomascrampton.com/2007/12/19/van-jones-corn-ethanol-swindles-the-...

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[BJJ415N]

Yeah.. in Brazil the food price has nothin to do with ethanol because less than 1 percent of its agricultural lands is used in SUGAR CANE crops.

So... stop spreading BS all over the Internet.

[thomascrampton]

Thanks for the comment. Jones is actually talking about corn-based, not sugar cane-based ethanol.

[ThunderheadNebula]

Van Jones is a self avowed Communist. watch?v=RXd3nZhlJNU . watch?v=LzQb42A1Nqs The next few decades will determine whether the Human Species is a locust species that will scour this planet to the bones…” . “Need change on a revolutionary scale to survive as a species.” . watch?v=bgKr480RYc4. Obama's Former Green Jobs Czar and Communist, Van Jones Admits Left is 'PRETENDING' Need for Regulations in Green Movement

[kdeerslayer]

i CAN solve the global warming thing ! Just dont believe anything you hear about it !! ITS A MAN MADE HOAX !!!!!

[mike121223]

hes a retard

[mizzoulibertarian]

is it true that hemp is the best for ethonal?

[psumner77]

Sugar is the correct way to go, but the biggest reason Brazil uses sugar based ethanol is because their tropical climate can produce sugarcane year round. Currently only Florida, Texas, Louisiana and Hawaii produce sugarcane in the U.S.. Would 4 states be able to support the fuel needs of 50? Since corn is so much more abundant (in the U.S.) it appears to be the obvious source. But what about sugar beets?

[TehSarro]

KORN

[tubeontime]

I did not listen to the whole thing yet, but also the energy it takes to CONVERT the corn to ethanol is is almost exactly what we get out of it. Not to mention the fertalizer, corn is one of the most fertalized crops.

Yes Juliusno1776 Mr Jones is right (as in correct) and did not even get into it thoroughly. Go check the carbon of all mc donalds products (excepting the obvious like the veggies, you will find corn carbon based. So spread your propoganda and spindoctoring all you want.

[BJJ415N]

Yes. And instead of paying we are gonna sell our sewage. And the energy efficiency will keep improving while money keeps flowing to research and technology, development and production. Its a matter of time. And its a political decision. Not a technical or economical one. Its good for the planet. Its good for the people. Oil is about end one of these days. Its time to do something in order to face this FACT. I dont care if it has to be corn or sugarcane or grass.

[Juliusno1776]

We could supply all our transport fuel needs on less than 1.5% of the 1.4 billion acres of ag land. We could even use empty gravel pits to grow cattails using primary treated sewage and clean our rivers as well, and lower our sewer bills too.

[Juliusno1776]

And Mr. Jones is wrong.

He should stop quoting a fraud like Pimentel.

Corn ethanol is energy positive. That said, there are some 20 crops that can be grown in America that out produce corn by 2x to over 10x