Mumia Abu-Jamal -- War for the Eternal Empire

The graduates of the SOA have proven relentless fighters to be sure; who are masters of the dark arts of torture, cruel interrogations, rape and mass murder. And who do they fight but their own people. To millions of people in Latin America the school is known by the popular name "La Escuela de Golpes"---the school of coups. There is scarcely an infamous massacre that can not be traced to its graduates. The Uraba massacre in Columbia. The El Mozote massacre, the rape and murders of four U.S. church women and the Jesuit massacres in El Salvador, the La Cantura massacre in Peru, and hundreds more. When the U.S. brays about a war on terrorism, there are millions in America to the south who snort in derision for they know another America which breeds state terrorism.

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[wwwtotalitaerde]

The German BND is the renamed 3rd Reich GESTAPO.The BND had organized the delegate Scheuermann of our county to visit or home.To allow him to personally experience how my brother and our parents had been tortured.The BND continued to torture my brother.He was assassinated on July 11th2009.Half a year after the assassination of my brother the CDU delegate Mappus from our district town Pforzheim was made prime minister of the German land of Baden Würtemberg

The CDU is the ruling party in Germany 

[subsamadhi]

@zeke1672 Personally, I don't view this case like that at all. There are no victims in my opinion. You had an overzealous cop beating someone over the head for what was it now fucking traffic tickets? I mean for god's sake. Then you had his brother who probably got fucking brain damage from that bullshit. Then you have Mumia. This is a case of losers all the way around the way I see it.

[zeke1672]

@subsamadhi If Mumia's life is a train wreck its his own fault. He didn't have to do what he did. If he thought that his brother was being abused there are legal channels to go through. Mumia let his own racial hatred get the best of him & now he's paying for it. Yeah Mumia's life sucks, but at least he's got a life. Faulkner doesn't even have that. Who's the real victim here?

[subsamadhi]

@zeke1672 Yeah that's fine too. I don't think cops have an easy job either. Don't get me wrong on that one. I just stand with Mumia Abu-Jamal on this. I mean, talk about being a fucking pariah. A black man who killed a cop. Think about what HIS life must be like. He has probably gotten the shit beat out of him several times while in jail. Not to mention that he pretty much won't ever see the light of day again for the rest of his life. His life is over. For defending his own.

[zeke1672]

@subsamadhi Because of the history of this country race is a very complicated issue. Its easy to demonize those who you see as your enemies. Growing up I was bullied by a lot of older black kids. It made me hate blacks for a while, but I got over it. Don't lose sight of Faulkner's humanity. He was a real flesh & blood human being just like you who had a family that loved him. Try to remember that. He didn't deserve what happened to him.

[subsamadhi]

@zeke1672 I think that in his case, he's looked at as kind of a martyr. Basically, he's a martyr for the black struggle in America or whatever. I don't even look at it like that at all. For me again, it's the family thing. Family comes first always. I am pretty sure black people think like that too. So he did what he thought was right for his own family. Probably not the best decision, but cops kill black people ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

[subsamadhi]

@zeke1672 For me also there's the thing about the family aspect of it too. Forget the rest of the details. If I were in his shoes, I would have done it too. I'm not even talking about the race thing, the cop thing, or anything like that. His brother's life was on the line. I can totally identify with him. Bottom line: nobody threatens MY family. I'm sure he felt the same way.

[zeke1672]

@subsamadhi I was like you once. A couple of documentaries have been made about this case. I saw one of them on HBO and it made me think Mumia was innocent, but then I looked into the case myself and found out that the movie I saw was very biased & didn't tell the whole story. Bottom line: Faulkner didn't have it coming. It sounds like you've read a lot of the pro Mumia stuff. Try to balance your perspective: read "Murdered b Mumia." I did & along with the transcripts it cleared the air for me.

[subsamadhi]

@zeke1672 I'm just saying my stance on it from the way I understand the case is that I side with Mumia completely. I have read quite a bit about it too. I know a lot about the court case but I think personally that Mumia's problem was that he defended himself. A black man who defended himself in a case about him killing a white police officer. No chance in hell much?

[zeke1672]

@subsamadhi Look, if Mumia had rolled up on a scene where his brother was about to be killed in cold blood by a corrupt officer I would agree with you 100 percent, but that's not what happened. There is a lot of erroneous and conflicting information about this case out there so it can be hard to determine the truth. Reading the court transcripts cleared it up for me because it is an unbiased account of what went down. Check it out.