Hymn to Chaos

Excerpts from the video "Trialogue on Chaos" featuring American philosopher Terrence McKenna, mathematician Ralph Abraham and scientist Rupert Sheldrake on "chaos and evolution."

Understanding the dynamics and forces of nature from a view that sees chaos as a new kind of order, not restricted or under the control of the rational mind, but akin more to creativity and imagination.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• terrence mckenna
• rupert sheldrake
• ralph abraham
• chaos theory
• psychedelic
• consciousness
• evolution
• morphogenetic fields

[MaBu888]

@astrotometry

True that. :)

[marissagoettling]

good one Jer!

[astrotometry]

Hurricanes are caused by CME's.  Coronal mass ejections reach velocities between 20km/s to 3200km/s with an average speed of 489km/s, based on SOHO/LASCO measurements between 1996 and 2003. The average mass is 1.6×1012kg. A bit more than a butterfly. :-)

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

There is integrative (good) and segregative use of energy. There such things as integrative and segregative energies when it comes to emotions as well. As me and space unfolds you will come to know both again. Much unconditional/free energies o you.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

See you in dreams.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

Emotions are two dimensional energies that tell the 2D situation. Since the mind is higher than emotions (3D), it triumphs in reason. So in that way, we agree. Butt the way of life you live, may involve the denial and lack of integration of emotions, which will limit the mind. Love is higher than the mind, love as you may know is not just an emotion but a 4D (astral) energy that can integrate many levels of one's consciousness into pure harmony. Use your intuition and stand.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

I like emotions.. They fulfill me. Joy, ect. Unconditional love and conditional love. Spicey. Spirituality wouldn't exist without them. Gut feeling, intuition, noninterference, real sensitivity. Excitement. Awareness.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

When you have a near death experience you will have more than second thoughts about your beliefs about reality itself. I myself don't need to know from other people that the astral (4D) realm exists, as do the etheric (5D) and causal (angelic, also known by the color indigo, 6D). I will quote Bruce Lee now: "Your thoughs are WROOOOONG!" - Bruce Lee. DMT works too, but I only needed meditation. I am very much and more fearless than I was when I relied on thought alone.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

It is by no means an appeal to emotion. I'm not even debating, I am speaking from my heart that is to say from my soul. In my soul there is light. In yours too. Again, as you notice I used concepts you don't have much relationship much more. It is the truth your most virtuous aspects know. Paradoxes are more real than logic. The mental body has more than just the three first chakras, as to all the koshas/sheathes. Man you will wake up. But go and enjoy your homework.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

1. So what your saying is that since I don't think like you or wont except some of your faulty premises I wont understand?

This is not so. It is so only in your mind. I'm not arguing but sharing my heart and mind freely. Anger destroys. Love creates. Unconditional. This is it, you actually don't understand, because understanding is one dimension higher than the mind. It is the heart. Intuition. Mental formalisms collapse as you love.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

Because of your limited conscious experience with dimensions higher than 3, you can't possibly understand what I mean, at least not much. You only use your mind butt not heart consciousness in this discussion. I know it might seem a sacrifice of rationality, therefore you don't need to even continue this discussion. What I speak of is not necessarily clearly outlineable in formalizations of mental constructs. Intuition and imagination are the realms pertinent.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

You are quite asleep right now. 5th dimension is a kind of higher self experience that I have made more perpetual in my conscious experience. To you it is right now invisible, except in some dreams you haven't journaled. What I am speaking of right now is not mental body stuff such as philosophy, but a form of 'physics'. It's the kind of thing I cannot nor won't prove to you because of your dumbed down conscious awareness. *prepared for denial*

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

Philosophy is a lot of the time mental masturbation. Circulating the same shit in the mental body sheathes of the auric field. In fact it very well may be that thoughts aren't in the brain, but are received from what is called the aura, transmitted to the brain. Higher dimensions to lower dimensions transference. That's the reason for statistical probability of telepathy. We need to upgrade our 'nonphysical' components of our DNA. I know that it sounds ridiculous.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

I wasn't speaking of formal philosophy. Eastern people aren't formal philosophers, although now there are. Also, there was a formality to eastern philosophy that is incompatible with 'western' notion. There will be a time you will wake up again. Right now you tend to stay in dimensions 1-3 in terms of your conscious awareness. Formalized logic is a misguided crystallization of already false data (viewing from 5th dimensional awareness). There will be a day again of 3-* D 4 u.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

What ever the fallacy in terms of formal logic on my part, the content of this video is of a philosophical nature and a spiritual nature simultaneously. You haven't had many or perhaps any spiritual experiences, therefore you cannot actually relate to this video in the same way its Appreciators can.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

In the way that you didn't address none of the contents of this video, because you can't.

[MaBu888]

@bananabread119

Nearly identical strategy to a religionist. (speaking about your comment).

[MaBu888]

I kyo taramaa zekieemataa zhenomuu natikwee.

[gerontodon]

Rupert Sheldrake saying that animals are more than machines reminded me of an article I read in the latest New Scientist about a field called Biosemiotics-- which holds that the reading of a chemical or electro-chemical signal requires sign, meaning *and* 'interpretant' - to whom, or which, the sign *has* the meaning. The article that this view may explain the emergence of human consciousness from neural firing better than traditional models.

[outoftheboxinsight]

Just wonderful, thanks. Very glad that divine imagination is unleashing!