Arthur Jones - "The Beginning, or the End?" (2 of 3)

Part 2.

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[chopsky]

I know this is completely unrelated, but what is the song that is playing from 4:50?

Enjoying the Arthur Jones reading. What a man.

[Beethovens7th]

Ahh but that little pattern is the opening theme that's repeated many times throughout the score. It's gorgeous though, ain't it?

BTW, I don't know if you knew this but Jones spent a lot of time in Africa. He lived with the Zulu for a while even I think? And boy he told some great historical stories about Chaka Zulu, CRAZY stuff.

[chopsky]

Yeh, unbelievable piece. I've definitely heard it before. Must look into buying that.

I briefly read about his time in Africa when I was looking into him. To have met him must have been one of the most interesting experiences of a person's life. It's unbelievable to think what the guy accomplished in his lifetime. The Zulus are an intense bunch. As far as the tribes go, they're definitely the most feared (even today). South Africa is still unbelievably tribal, which is shit to say the least.

[Beethovens7th]

You can find some videos of Jones old 50s or 60s (not sure which) hunting/outdoorsman TV show "Wild Cargo." I think there are 3 episodes on YT.

One story Jones told about Chaka Zulu, was that after one of his wives died he made the entire tribe go without sex (or anything else similar) for an entire year. Then he lined up all the men naked in a field and made the women dance for them. If the men uh, showed evidence of their arousal, they were killed instantly. So as the women danced toward...

[Beethovens7th]

...the men they said to them, "hit yourselves where we cannot." And the only men that survived were the ones who "hit themselves." This story came from a Zulu tribesmen who somehow lived to be 100, I think the incident itself occurred around the beginning of the 19th century.

Chaka also killed

[Beethovens7th]

Oops hit enter too soon. Chaka also killed off all his tribe's witch doctors (except for the youngest one) at one point. He fed the guards outside his hut something to make them pass out, then snuck out in the middle of the night, killed a gazelle I think, and smeared blood all over his doorway. In the morning he had the guards executed for falling asleep and demanded that the witch doctors find out who did it. Each of them brought him a different suspect and claimed that they *knew* their...

[Beethovens7th]

...guy had done it. He put all the suspects in a pen and finally, the youngest witch doctor, who had just been watching the whole time, said "You are the guilty one, oh King!" So, Chaka impaled all the other witch doctors and let their "suspects" go, and the young one became the new chief witch doctor.

All this stuff is in chapter 59 of And God Laughs.

[Beethovens7th]

All the music in these 3 videos is from Swan Lake. I only just got the CD though, so I couldn't place the particular segment of the ballet score just by ear.

[Beethovens7th]

Yeah like I said, I don't agree with all of his points. Boy was he right though about the Panama Canal thing, what a bunch of crap that was. ESPECIALLY since Vanderbilt built a Nicaragua Canal long before (50 years I think?) the Panama one which made a route that was 500 miles shorter. He did it in a year, without everyone dying (unlike the French and TR). Unfortunately some American "Filibuster" adventurers invaded Nicaragua and destroyed the canal.

[Beethovens7th]

The video you really have to see is called Classic Arthur Jones Seminar 1986. My god it's hilarious.

Also if you type in "Arthur Jones Wild Cargo" there are I think 3 episodes of his old tv show, Wild Cargo, on YouTube. I think it was from the 50s or 60s, but it's a lot of cool hunting videos. Back then it wasn't politically incorrect to actually show them shooting the animals, heh.