@Amonarok also regarding trion,when prof x merges with wolverine and enters the trion,they find cain marko hiding in a corner,and discover that his body(cain) and cyttoraks power have been stolen by an entity which is the evil persona of the trion(who explain this all to storm).so just to clarify,it was a third party.and no,cain did not have access to cyttoraks power because he wasnt even in control of his own body.
@Amonarok juggernaut gets trapped under a mountain,it takes him 3 plus years to escape,hulk gets trapped under a mountain,it takes him seconds to get out.hulk goes for a swim whilst carrying an island,throws fing fang foom to the moon,juggernaut gets outwitted by wet cement,LOL.btw going back to your earlier comment,correct me if im wrong,but didnt cyttorak originally create the gem by ripping away a piece of himself?or have they retconned that???
@Amonarok actually yeah it really is a third party who took control of cyttoraks power in the case of trion.during 8th day,the writer actually caps juggernauts strength level,and clearly states it in the comic.hulk was collapsing landscapes and mountain ranges years before juggernaut writers nicked the idea from hulk writers.hell hulk punched ironclad in the head and it caused cataclysms across multiple dimensions,he thunder clapped a dimension out of existence,the list goes on.
@Amonarok in christos gages,opinion,greg pak would say otherwise,hell maybe even peter david.you say juggs was stomping the shit out of him,some of the xmen did worse than juggs.LOL,dude even the thing put up a better fight than juggernaut,mind you that was a full powered juggernaut also,and he could barely move hulk.sentry punched hulk through a building,didnt see juggernaut do that :) besides where exactly does hulk say he cant beat juggernaut?or are you just making stuff up at this point?
@LeBearExtrordinare cont* Even Christos Gage, writer of WWH said that it was the strong incarnation of Hulk to date and we saw how that turned out, Jugs was stomping the shit out of him. The only thing Hulk did was dent Jug's helmet. He had to resort to BFR, at which point he told Charles himself that he could not beat the Juggernaut in a fight.
Eh, it's not really a 3rd party, the Trion just called for the Juggernaut and Cytorak pretty much fully took over Juggernaut, it wasn't the Trion amping him. And during 8th day, at time it was shown that his punches were causing earthquakes and collapsing the landscape, and he wasn't even punching the ground. Going to say that's a big step below punching through space/time, something Hulk has never been able to do.
@Amonarok the d,spayre story is dubious, he is a fear lord,his speciality is casting illusions. again the celestial tech only gave hulk access to his own strength and nulified his rage factor,clearly states it in that story,your of the opinion trion could soundly beat devil and dark hulk?im of the opinion that they could easily take trion :) again too much material available that suggests hulk is stronger than juggernaut.
I loved this whole saga. Apoc owns Hulk, but nothing can control or stop the hulk forever.
suemorphplus2009 6 days ago
Hulk wins
geeka4life 4 months ago 2
what song use???
GuardianNew008 6 months ago
@Amonarok also regarding trion,when prof x merges with wolverine and enters the trion,they find cain marko hiding in a corner,and discover that his body(cain) and cyttoraks power have been stolen by an entity which is the evil persona of the trion(who explain this all to storm).so just to clarify,it was a third party.and no,cain did not have access to cyttoraks power because he wasnt even in control of his own body.
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago
@Amonarok juggernaut gets trapped under a mountain,it takes him 3 plus years to escape,hulk gets trapped under a mountain,it takes him seconds to get out.hulk goes for a swim whilst carrying an island,throws fing fang foom to the moon,juggernaut gets outwitted by wet cement,LOL.btw going back to your earlier comment,correct me if im wrong,but didnt cyttorak originally create the gem by ripping away a piece of himself?or have they retconned that???
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago
@Amonarok actually yeah it really is a third party who took control of cyttoraks power in the case of trion.during 8th day,the writer actually caps juggernauts strength level,and clearly states it in the comic.hulk was collapsing landscapes and mountain ranges years before juggernaut writers nicked the idea from hulk writers.hell hulk punched ironclad in the head and it caused cataclysms across multiple dimensions,he thunder clapped a dimension out of existence,the list goes on.
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago
@Amonarok in christos gages,opinion,greg pak would say otherwise,hell maybe even peter david.you say juggs was stomping the shit out of him,some of the xmen did worse than juggs.LOL,dude even the thing put up a better fight than juggernaut,mind you that was a full powered juggernaut also,and he could barely move hulk.sentry punched hulk through a building,didnt see juggernaut do that :) besides where exactly does hulk say he cant beat juggernaut?or are you just making stuff up at this point?
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare cont* Even Christos Gage, writer of WWH said that it was the strong incarnation of Hulk to date and we saw how that turned out, Jugs was stomping the shit out of him. The only thing Hulk did was dent Jug's helmet. He had to resort to BFR, at which point he told Charles himself that he could not beat the Juggernaut in a fight.
Amonarok 7 months ago
Eh, it's not really a 3rd party, the Trion just called for the Juggernaut and Cytorak pretty much fully took over Juggernaut, it wasn't the Trion amping him. And during 8th day, at time it was shown that his punches were causing earthquakes and collapsing the landscape, and he wasn't even punching the ground. Going to say that's a big step below punching through space/time, something Hulk has never been able to do.
Amonarok 7 months ago
@Amonarok the d,spayre story is dubious, he is a fear lord,his speciality is casting illusions. again the celestial tech only gave hulk access to his own strength and nulified his rage factor,clearly states it in that story,your of the opinion trion could soundly beat devil and dark hulk?im of the opinion that they could easily take trion :) again too much material available that suggests hulk is stronger than juggernaut.
LeBearExtrordinare 7 months ago