Pascals Wager Atheists Agree with God. must watch
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What you utterly fail to grasp is : What if there is a god, but its not your god? There are literally thousands of religions that all make the exact same claims of exclusivity as your religion does. The ten commandments were ripped off from Hamurabi's code - just like the rest of the old testament was ripped off from other cults,faiths,and pagan religions that predated it by hundreds of years. The bible is just bronze age fairy tales and nonsense.
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@wimahlers Correction:
2000 centuries must of course be 20 centuries or 2000 years.
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". It's all about population distribution."
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No! It is all about choosing a random biblical text and a random, usually artificial, number and than somehow corrolate them and claim that there is a relation.
I challenge you to randamly pick any verse in the bible and I can corrolate it to something ... and something else, etc.
I don't even know were you got your 200 million from but I can do that too! 150 million. So, done. Proves nothing. Try the muslim version.
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I have a scientific background. As such I prefer an open discussion. And indeed, youtube is not a medium to discuss. I usually invite people to a forum of their likings. A forum is the proper formal way to discuss.
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"You can bury your head ... and rationalize this way and that way, but watch the signs of time. "
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This has been said countless times in the past 2000 centuries. Is it not also in the bible that the apostles said that jesus would return in their lifetime?
So, excuse me for being rational and still not being impressed by your "signs of time". Come to think of it, why are you not a muslim? Have you not read, or heard of, the scientific miracles in the koran?
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It's not that they couldn't pop up big numbers. It's all about population distribution. No where else in the world based on current population distributions could a 200 million man army be yielded. Not North America, South America, Europe, or Africa. Only Asia, which is where the verse indicates the army to come from. Also, the verse correlates with the birth of the modern state of Israel (the fig tree) in 1948, so this army would have to come about during the existance of Israel.
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If you want you can private message me. This searching through comments to respond is getting cumbersome, that is unless your goal is merely to prove me wrong in front of everyone. That would fit your narcissistic personality. hahaha (1/2 joke) :)
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I assumed you read the Bible, so therefore providing an exact verse would be unecessary. It's not an excuse as much as it is the propensity of biblical prophecys coming to fruition. You can bury your head in the sand as much as you like, and rationalize this way and that way, but watch the signs of time. John 12:40 is in reference to the hard hearted, faithless generation in which we our entombed currently. Nothing has changed in 2000 years. People will always be the same.
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@THEJJR85 Really? You really claim that they could not pop up big numbers 2000 years ago? Do you actually know what a brahma day is? See: tinyurl(dot)com/7qskp
I am so much not impressed with your hindsight interpretation to still try to force a meaning upon a biblical text that you have not even showed in context. So I will do this for you. See: Revelation, chapter 9, verse 16 (use: tinyurl(dot)com/5a3zj)
I am still so much not impressed. So I am now waiting for the copout excuse: John 12:40.
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The problem with that theory is, At the time the Bible was written i.e., about A.D. 60 - 100, so more than 1900 years ago, the world's total human population was around 300 million. The idea of a 200 million man army originating from one largely unknown portion of the world was literally unfathomably. I'm sure the Bible could predict the death of a third of the world's population, and if it came to pass and you were lucky enough to survive, you would still say, "there is no God."
You don't understand Pascal's Wager.
There are thousands of gods. Most of them are narcistic bullying sadistic monsters...like the christian god.
Choosing anyone of these thousands of gods makes the other unchosen bullying gods jealous and revengefull.
I choose none. And if a god truly exists and if I ever meet this bully than I expect this god to drop on its knees and sincerly ask forgiveness for being such a self centered prick. Since I am humane there is a possibility I will forgive.
wimahlers 2 years ago 4
Pascals wager is assinine. It assumes christianity or no god. What if you die and islam is true.
mbouw21 1 year ago