Jennifer Burns on Ayn Rand

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[redshark618]

@ReasonSharp I have read her books. I used to believe them. I hope for now we can agree to disagree. Good day.

[ReasonSharp]

@redshark618 You see what you want to see and not what is. This is concerning both my attitude and Ayn Rand. You're not saying anything new, just repeating what other opponents of Ayn Rand are mindlessly jabbering. It's no wonder that you see any criticism to that as hostility when in reality I just don't care. These points have been thoroughly analyzed and argued against rationally (not to mention, some are blatant lies, at least to someone who has read some of her books).

[redshark618]

@ReasonSharp Hostility toward differing opinions. You've proved my point for me.

[ReasonSharp]

@redshark618 Oh, please. Is this the highest extent of your "knowledge" of Objectivism?

Actually, I don't care how you justify that BS, I've heard all of these before and I'm not interested to enter yet another pointless discussion.

[redshark618]

@ReasonSharp Alright, here is a condensed list of Objectivism's problems:

-dogma, the reliance on "axioms" (moral absolutes) instead of realistic worldviews

-xenophobia, an automatic conceit or ill-will against those perceived "incompetent"

-hostility toward any differing opinion (this is the hallmark of dictatorship)

-extreme egocentricity

-the valuation of "what" to think, rather than "how" to think

Overall, objectivism resembles a tyranny more than a philosophy. I've been there before.

[ReasonSharp]

@redshark618 Well, suppose that you lied to a murderer to protect your children and afterwards I said that you were a liar because of it and that I was sorry that you hadn't overcome that flaw.

Does that sound like I'd be a very honest person in that scenario?

[ReasonSharp]

@redshark618 "Us" Objectivists also realize that she was an extreme capitalist and a writer of absolutes. What you find dishonest in her philosophy, I don't know.

As for medicare, she, like many US citizens do, (over)paid for it so she might as well have used it.

[redshark618]

All you objectivists need to stop criticizing this lady. She's your friend. At least she's acknowledging Rand's good traits. Most scholars realize that Rand was an extreme-capitalist, a dishonest philosopher, and a writer of absolutes.

Not to mention she hated collectivism, yet used medicare.

[redshark618]

@ReasonSharp How is that dishonesty?  Writers do that all the time. Tolstoy disagreed with Dostoyevsky but still admired his heart.

[ReasonSharp]

Jennifer basically says "I decided which of Ayn Rand's traits were her character flaws, and then I felt sorry for her that she didn't overcome them."

Dishonesty at its best.