8: The Mormon Proposition

The hit of the 2010 Sundance Film Festival - 8: The Mormon Proposition. Watch this video to hear more about the film and the issue.

Order of Appearance:
Fred Karger
Joe Solmonese. President. Human Rights Campaign
City Attorney Dennis Herrera
State Sen. Scott McCoy
Gavin Newsom - Mayor of San Francisco
Spencer Jones & Tyler Barrick
Linda Stay
Bruce Bastian - Executive Producer - 8: The Mormon Proposition
Chris Volz
Steven Greenstreet - Co-Director - 8: The Mormon Proposition




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[hanohanonacowboy]

@expertstrategy: "it isn't just Mormons who have this view, but all other churches have the same perspective."

-- It's really laughable to hear Mormons presume to speak for "all other churches". The three major US denominations that currently welcome marriage for same-sex couples were all three already ancient in this country at a time when Joseph Smith was sticking his face in his hat and trying to decide which friend's wife to screw next.

Mormons violated hundreds of churches with Prop 8.

[atzepeng2323]

fuck mormons. fuck church. fuck you american idiots

[sabymoon]

@DavidCGuitarGuru someone must have really done a number on you. God is loving and just? First, the leader (who has power of the Word, unlike you peons) says God's terrifying, frightening, asks for Abraham to do a human sacrifice, trashes Job to prove a point, acts like a brat- not at all like a Supreme Being. Then you have to grovel to get him not to stomp you! You were Taught ALL this crap. Now you're probably afraid I'm the Devil, scaring you. See what BS all this is? A closed thought loop.

[sabymoon]

People fall in love. They commit their lives to each other. They don't need your blessing, nor Fundamentalist churches' blessing. They buy property together. They go into business and they raise children, pay taxes, etc. The government, real estate, etc., all have to get involved. Gay marriage will eventually become just part of boring, every day life. Stable relationships should be encouraged. Child molesting (my LDS friend Katie's husb.molested their kids, no help from the bishop) discouraged.

[sabymoon]

I know many Mormons, and they are mostly very likable, decent people. It's the church I hate because it poured millions of dollars into the campaign against gay marriage in California, voting against human rights for a class of people. Those ancient, old male leaders can't stand to imagine gay sex. Well, I would rather not think of those nasty old men in that way! It's none of your damned business to force your beliefs into law in another state. If I wanted to be LDS I had many opportunities!

[expertstrategy]

@sabymoon "You think God is so petty as to reject gay people?" Well, he is in fact against homosexuality, but he isn't against the sinner. We're taught to love the sinner but hate the sin.

"If you don't want to be treated like a cult, quit being so ridiculous" Personally, we don't care what people think about us. You can treat us however way you wish, we're used to this anyway. What do you mean by "being so ridiculous"? Are you saying that we should change our religious beliefs?

[expertstrategy]

@sabymoon, yes, there are some Mormon families who disowned gay children, and I greatly dislike them for their actions. You shouldn't generalize a group of people, not only are you lying, but you are also bearing false witness. I think I know more about what we believe in than you do, so don't presume to tell us that we hate gay people, because we don't.

Our leaders are very wise and good people, probably wiser than you ever will be in your whole life.

nuff said.

[expertstrategy]

@sabymoon "but keep your cult out of our laws. Go ahead and cast us into outer darkness, get your own planet"

Well just like everyone else, we have a say on how this country should be run, and if you don't like that, then screw you.

[sabymoon]

@expertstrategy How can you choose an abusive church over your son and daughter--- many kids I know were disowned for being gay. Shame on that hateful church of OLD MEN! The only churches that discriminate against gay people are Fundamentalist ones--- Islamic, Baptist, Mormon, Catholic--- all of them run by a hateful hierarchy of OLD MEN and the stupid women who FEAR THEM! You think God is so petty as to reject gay people? If you don't want to be treated like a cult, quit being so ridiculous.

[sabymoon]

@expertstrategy The first sin is to objectify the members of your human family. Mormons excuse their founder, philanderer and small time crook Joseph Smith. Now they want to ruin the happiness of others. Go ahead and believe your crackpot ideas, but keep your cult out of our laws. Go ahead and cast us into outer darkness, get your own planet.