Are People Shocked By Your Views On Heaven? NT Wright on 100 Huntley Street (HD)

(HD) Transcript: "I find that often when I talk about this...preach to congregations and so on, you get some people who say, this is weird, this isnt what I was taught in Sunday school, Im not sure about this. Then other people who say, hey thats really interesting because, I was reading that bit in the bible and I didnt understand how it worked. And now youve given me a framework that does make sense. So I get those two reactions and others in between. But I think particularly, people begin to realize, this makes sense of a lot of what the bible says about who we are here and now. The being creatures of space and time and matter. Its not a bad thing from which we should escape. This is Gods good world, but its phase one of a project that God is going to complete.
So what we do in the present matters in terms of justice and mercy. In terms of holiness, in terms of all sorts of things. It all matters because God is going to renew it all. Hes not going to throw it away."

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[Rollcollarpunk]

NT Wright is the Man.

[Hotandsmartblonde]

That used to confuse me too. FYI ressurrection is a jewish 'end-time' concept - you know last days, dead will be raised for judgement - and they would receive eternal life. Early christians applied it to Jesus - it is 'new life', 'eternal life'. The risen Jesus is not just his old self (resuscitation), but possesses life of a completely new order (resurrection). Thus the end times have begun.

[Strefanasha]

for once i hear something from him that is not too bad.

But of course if we are in sin our righteousness, being filthy rags, counts for nothing. it is pointless, but for a different reason than that Wright invokes.

He goes on about the goodness of the creation, and so it is. But does he also speak at detail ab out the falleness of it, its cursedness and subjection to futility?

if not he is unbalanced in theology, and that is the definition of heretic

[ReaderDan]

Wright is such a homie.

[taroKID1]

wait..im wrong, Their ideas were never accepted into society because of their irrational ideas until after their death.

-My bad..My bad..no offense to those people.

NT RIGHT YOU DA MAN.

[FAITHandLOGIC]

@k0smon The whole concept of eternal torment is heresy. It is not taught in the Bible. Jesus taught of the gift of eternal life for the believer and the non-believer to die or perish. It never says to burn forever and be consciously aware of it. The saved live and the unsaved die in gehenna (lake of fire) at the resurrection. Hell is from the Norse goddess "Hel" and it meant "to bury". It has changed meanings over the centuries. Today's "hell" is a lie.

[k0smon]

@FAITHandLOGIC The physical body is for the earth. The spirit body is for the heavens. The dense physical body is not suited for the rarefied conditions in the heavens.

[k0smon]

@FAITHandLOGIC You are a man of great faith if you can say there are no contradictions in the bible. Bart Ehrman's book "Jesus Interrupted", titles his second chapter 'A World of Contradictions'. It is 40 pages long. He wasn't just writing about nothing!

There is mis-information about the afterlife in the bible. There is no eternally lasting fiery hell. There are hellish conditions, they are dark and miserable. No marriage in heaven is correct, however

[FAITHandLOGIC]

Jesus rose PHYSICALLY, Paul was translated PHYSICALLY, Enoch and Elijah were taken PHYSICALLY ... but people actually think that it's the spirit that goes to Heaven. So stupid.

[FAITHandLOGIC]

@k0smon When reading the Bible, it's important to know of the particular book - who the author is, who he is writing to and the time span of which he is writing. There are no contradictions - especially in death/afterlife. Some of the writings are literal and some are figurative and poetic.

[k0smon]

@FAITHandLOGIC If you want to know what the afterlife is like, read "Life in the World Unseen", free download from the internet. In 1 Samuel 28:15, "Samuel said to Saul..." Was Samuel talking in his sleep? One of the problems with the bible is the contradictory teachings. In one place it says we sleep, in another it indicates we are awake and in full possession of our faculties. I think I will not trust a book like that.

[FAITHandLOGIC]

I just read his book "After you Believe". It's a good read if anyone is interested. He is correct that New Jerusalem is the end product but I don't believe you go to Heaven right away. I don't see how that's Biblical. The Bible calls death sleep.