Atari 8-bit Playthrough - Spy vs. Spy
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such a great game, and a great memory from my childhood on the c64
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@ACnitus I hate when people speak without having ANY clue. First, this game was originally written for the C64, not ported from Atari.
Second, you can't compare "capturing from atari ports", because that has NOTHING to do with the system's capabilities, but it's 100% on the programmers.
Second, the C64 had vastly SUPERIOR audio. The SID was much more advanced than POKEY, a simple noise generator.
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@Mirkoyanque Not an electrical issue, but close: in Europe we use PAL 50 Hz framerate while in US - they have uing NTSC with 60Hz.
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thats so cool!
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@rfswitchbox It is. I played this game all the time on my Atari 800xl and all the music and sound is exactly the same as in this video
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@gjc82071 Also I had an 800 xl from early childhood, a 130 xe later on. I must have played this game a million times. This is what it sounded like.
Don't forget, this was the original game. It's the ports, like the c64 port, that has incorrect music. The c64 had vastly inferior audio and never captured it right in ports from atari. The NES port came out so much later that it doesn't even count as a port so much as a complete remake.
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@ACnitus That's not always a sure sign. For authenticity/nostalgia, several emulators actually have the disk access sound built into them. Amiga, BBC Micro, Amstrad CPC, etc, all have that.
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@sctriplefox I think the difference in the rythm is due to the different electrical frequency in Germany (60 Hz) which is where Atari 8 bits were produced, and USA (50 Hz), that causes the sound to go faster/slower, depending on the country you are in... this video is recorded in a 60 Hz country, or with an emulator in the 60 Hz option.
Every Atari version of Spy vs. Spy I've heard on an emulator has bad music timing. I remember playing an original copy on a real 800 and hearing the correct rhythm....I wonder, is it the emulator, or a bad image? :(
sctriplefox 3 years ago
To be honest, I'm not sure (I've never played this on an emulator). Did the music in this video sound ok? Because this was recorded straight from an Atari 130XE.
rfswitchbox 3 years ago
This music was wrong - I just assumed it was emulated. Listen to a recording of the C64 or NES version, particularly the higher bell-like melody. In your recording that part desynchs from the rhythm line in a certain phrase - it goes twice as fast. This is the error I'm referring to.
sctriplefox 3 years ago
I see what you're talking about now. I only ever had this game for the Atari, so I never noticed it was different on other platforms.
I think this might just be how the music on the Atari port is, though. It's how I always remembered it and it's also how my original copy plays. Unless maybe First Star released more than one version of the Atari port?
rfswitchbox 3 years ago
This is not water bucket. This is ACID bucket.
But I like the spring most.
krbosak 3 years ago
Believe it or not, it actually is a water bucket. Straight from the manual. Worth noting because it acts as the remedy for the bomb.
I think the Spy vs. Spy game that was released for the XBOX a few years ago had an acid bucket as a weapon, but I'm not totally sure as I've never played it.
Also, I really like the spring as well. I probably should have used it in the video. lol.
rfswitchbox 3 years ago