@lizazoon "C) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept that the guilty must suffer, but children ???"
I think the question beyond that is simply why must there be suffering and guilt in the first place? And the answer is not necessarily "there is no god". The question is if there is a god, where does this god stand in relation to suffering. Part of the Christian response is that he stands with us, suffering and dying on a cross.
@lizazoon "C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. "
If not immediate, the reaction is forthcoming. If you're talking about the problem as sin and why it is permitted in general, that's a much bigger discussion.
@lizazoon "B) The absolute absence of favoritism towards believers. "
Why is lightning suddenly a manifestation of god, when previously he was "absent from the natural world"? With regards to this particular point, though, Jesus did say "He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous" (Matthew 5:45).
"A) Total absence from the natural world. No sign of a god, before, during or after, natural disastres "
Many people can't help but see the natural world as clear manifestations of God. Not everyone is looking for a bearded man in the clouds. Granted, if that's what you're looking for, there is clearly no god. But that's not what Christians think god "looks like".
I really liked this version.
carpenterabc 3 weeks ago
@lizazoon "C) The suffering of the innocent. One could accept that the guilty must suffer, but children ???"
I think the question beyond that is simply why must there be suffering and guilt in the first place? And the answer is not necessarily "there is no god". The question is if there is a god, where does this god stand in relation to suffering. Part of the Christian response is that he stands with us, suffering and dying on a cross.
ngbernard 11 months ago
@lizazoon "C) The absence of any reaction, when crimes are committed in his name. "
If not immediate, the reaction is forthcoming. If you're talking about the problem as sin and why it is permitted in general, that's a much bigger discussion.
ngbernard 11 months ago
@lizazoon "B) The absolute absence of favoritism towards believers. "
Why is lightning suddenly a manifestation of god, when previously he was "absent from the natural world"? With regards to this particular point, though, Jesus did say "He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous" (Matthew 5:45).
ngbernard 11 months ago
@lizazoon
"A) Total absence from the natural world. No sign of a god, before, during or after, natural disastres "
Many people can't help but see the natural world as clear manifestations of God. Not everyone is looking for a bearded man in the clouds. Granted, if that's what you're looking for, there is clearly no god. But that's not what Christians think god "looks like".
ngbernard 11 months ago