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Freedom From Religion Foundation Does Not Live in a George Washington Free Republic!

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Published on Nov 10, 2011

Faith & Freedom: Friday November 18, 2011

Mat Staver and Matt Barber Express Amazement Over the Hostility That Continues to be Exhibited by the Freedom From Religion Foundation Against Christianity! Does the FFRF Live in an Ugly America?

Liberty Counsel Sent a Letter to the Clay County Florida School District Relative to Prayer Before School! The Superintendent & District Attorney Were Clearly Misguided on Constitutional Law.

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  • mojo5904

    To all those that think FFRF hates god,

    One can't hate that which does not exist. Period.

    Have a godless day...

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  • Liberty Counsel

    Good point! Then, using your logic, if there is hate towards Him then there is a God?

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  • Liberty Counsel

    @TheUnadahmer ... you ask the best questions! Yes, we understand those feelings because the Church is made up of sinful humans; however, the overall root is not one or two bad experiences but, instead, a hardened heart toward God. The real root is rebellion against God. Sin is nothing more than separation from God & man's thoughts & behaviors can either draw him closer to the heart & mind of God, or, our rejection of His Word hardens our hearts further against Him. The Bible is the Mind of God.

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  • Liberty Counsel

    @sacrosanct24 ... while we may disagree with the teachings of Wicca and Witchcraft, the same laws that protect our rights to express our religion also protect theirs as well.

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  • Liberty Counsel

    @Ahisman12 ... absolutely anyone can pray as much as they so choose. satanic worshipers choose to pray to satan. You misunderstand the Establishment Clause ... government cannot reject a student leading prayer on public property and is not legal government sponsorship of religion. Our website has legal memoranda published for your educational value. YouTube prevents posting of URLs but Liberty Counsel is easy enough to find. "Resources" are listed at the bottom of the home page.

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  • Liberty Counsel

    @13shb ... by the way, Christian prayer is Constitutionally sound and legal in public schools and on public property.

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  • TheUnadahmer

    Mr. Staver and Mr. Barber mentioned that one of the atheist leaders they debated seemed to have a hatred of God. Has anyone tried to find out what the root of his feelings is? Many folks who are hostile toward religion have a reason for their views. Some folks discriminate against a particular religion due to a bad experience with one of its followers. Having had such and experience in my own life, I can understand certain feelings.

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  • Todd Branch

    Is Witchcraft sound and legal in public schools?

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  • Ashiman12

    A Christian can pray all he want. But so can anyone else. And for the government to actually institute prayer (such as leading students in prayer) is a clear violation of the Establishment Clause. Individuals praying in a respectful way is one thing. Government sponsorship of prayer is another.

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  • Liberty Counsel

    @13shb ... public record shows that Liberty Counsel has defended the religious liberties of groups we disagree with because the First Amendment still protects offensive speech. It does not guarantee Freedom FROM Religion but, instead, Freedom OF Religion. In addition, we do not charge our clients because we are donation-based.

    We wonder if you are as willing to be as objective and donate to our cause in the name of religious liberty?

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