2002 - Helen Mirren on Nigel Hawthorne [4/5]

Part 5 of 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSyExAsiE5A

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[vicar2]

I really do hate the press these days. Im all for freedom of the press as a safeguard of our political liberties but let's call a bunch of cunts, a bunch of cunts when that is actually what they are.

[dunkiep]

Oh dear, the vicar and evernetherall have fallen out... Well at least it's an appropriately literate altercation between two parties who (for hitherto undisclosed reasons) have entered into a discourse of what many learned individuals might describe as being of an animated and highly corrosive nature.

ie: the vicar said 'cunt'.

Nigel would have been so proud.

[vicar2]

@mtheadedwally I know that's what I mean to say. In fact that's where it originates from, as you probably know if you've read him, so to insinuate that it's only the language of the vulgarian or uneducated is nonsense. It's a form of expression like any other and only a tight-arsed twit would think otherwise.

[mtheadedwally]

@vicar2 it is in Chaucer!

[vicar2]

I think I answered your point. I was rude and offensive for effect. Which is why profanity exists. I was nasty because I don't like the modern media and especially in this case, where they were nasty to someone who really didn't deserve it. Whether you think using vulgar language reflects badly on the person who uses it is a very relative point. You think it does. I, and many others, think it doesn't. If you happened to read it in Chaucer or Ben Johnson no doubt you'd think it was fine.

[evernetherall]

any spelling misnomers are deliberate you may rest assured, "vicar."

you certainly are defensive & like to 'bite the back of genuine & constructive responses to your original remarks. You brot it up after all.

Must you really be so nasty? (That's a rhetorical question, incidentally. I'm really not interested in your 'reactions' -- they are not responsive.

[vicar2]

@evernetherall

How on earth is it sexist? The word 'cunt' isn't sexist. That's like saying calling someone a 'dick' is sexist. Profanity is just a mode of speech used for emphasis and, in this case, was very fitting. Don't be such a prude.

I accept the fact that it is insulting. That was my intention. Incidentally, there is nothing wrong with insulting something you don't like.

Furthermore if we are going to talk about bad reflections upon oneself, perhaps you should learn to spell...

[evernetherall]

@vicar2

Sorree 'vicar2' but there are so many other 'things' you could choose to 'call them.' But the one you've selected is an Xtreemlee offensive & sexist vulgarity all by itself.

The unfortunate choice tends, you see, to reflect more poorly upon you than the thing you endeavor to insult.

//<_<\\

[juzt156]

I agree. I have stopped reading paper. They seem to fill more of thier pages with less and less.