Re: The Great Abortion Debate! Should abortion be allowed?

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[ytfjordan]

So you feel that babies developing in their early stages of life are just as important as the germs on the kitchen counter?? Thats ridiculous!

You did manage to make a few good points though. The only things I agree with, is the rape/incest part of it, and the part where couples who are legitimately trying hard not to have kids. Other than that, I disagree with you.

[gsusreloded]

@ytfjordan You need to listen more carefully. I was referring to the stance that people take when they say all life is sacred. THEIR actions say that they dont actually believe that. But how would you solve the problem people that aren't responsible having children is the source of almost EVERY social problem failing public education, to an excess number of unskilled workers, to poverty and murder. All of these would be reduce sharply if only the people who could afford to had children.

[waterplo12]

"Where was God when the rape happened?" God allows free will. Rape is wrong. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Also there are plenty of people who have children right now who are irresponsible. We do not kill that kid.

"People do not have a self until like 2." What does that have to do with anything. It makes it sound like it is okay to kill a person unitl they are two because they are unwanted or some other issue since they do not have a self. I do not see the point in this statement.

[gsusreloded]

I didn't say that, I was refuting that idea of destiny and mental complexity. But when does it ever make sense to give people who are irresponsible to privilege of having children so that they can make more people that just cause more problems. Numbers don't lie

[alantheman10]

@waterplo12 yea and God created that rapist and knew his heart before he was even a thought in his mothers mind. he also created the full span of time which includes that rape free will is an illusion

[ryddelwearsahat]

Aborted at 14, no regrets whatsoever.A fetus.. is nothing compared to an actual thinking, feeling person w/ a soul. If you are against abortion, you want me dead, and you don't want me married, educated, employed, or to have my REAL son, born this march. My abortion led to all those things. Consent to sex is not consent to breeding- people have sex for many different reasons- we are not mindless mating animals. Abortion=common sense.

[stormylullabyangel]

you really helped me with my college debate and i love that you speak what you think politics aside religion aside go you. you have no idea how much you have helped my debate :D thanks bunches.

[ANDREWSABAT]

Good work buddy.

[gsusreloded]

Rape is not an optimal reproductive situation, the mother may be injured, or many other factors that could have negative consequences for survival. But what you are doing here is just being obtuse, you know what I meant. Being intellectually dishonest is something that bores me to tears.

[waterplo12]

When is rape anything but wrong? You say that you can't say that an answer is right all of the time. I cannot see a time where the answered to is rape wrong to be any different than yes rape is wrong. I guess if there is no objective truth then a culture out their somewhere could make it right and justify it by saying it insures our species will servive.