Raltour 1938 Tube Train at Canada Water

The preserved 1938 Tube train on a railtour from Ealing Broadway travelling via the southern side of the Circle Line to the East London Line on 16/12/07.

To access the ELL the train used the (nowadays) rarely used 'St Mary's Curve' (there was a time when this link saw regular passenger services) and whilst on the ELL made two return trips each to New Cross and New Cross Gate as well as visiting Whitechapel several times too. Alas as Shoreditch station had closed many money previously this station was not visited.

Here we see it passing through Canada Water station, which is a brand new station that opened in the late 1990's and offers easy interchange with the Jubilee Line.

This station has also become the line's Achilles Heel, as it was built to accept trains no longer than 4 cars (carriages) in length, whilst all other stations along the route can accept 6 car trains... and with the extensions of the route as part of its becoming a London Overground service the inability to use longer trains might become a cause for overcrowding / a serious limiting factor.

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[likeplaneboy]

why is there are lu on the lo?

[citytransportinfo]

Do you not know the history of this line? Its best to watch my film about Surrey Quays, as that includes a more detailed historical overview. Even more detail is on the Wikipedia website.

The short answer is that (as a railway) this line was originally owned by a consortia of 6 railway companies, 4 of which ended up in BR and 2 in LT. Until the 1960's freight and BR passenger trains also used this line.

This station poses problems for the line, as it has short platforms.

Simon

[metadyneman]

Yes I had heard it was going to be out & about again on the 14th

[puziparrot]

You'll find many parts from other stock has been taken to make the 38 stock work, before the railtour, some 72 stock bogies went missing and are rumoured to be under the 38 stock ;P.

[citytransportinfo]

@Cazkumali hmm, Bakerloo & Piccadilly - 7 cars.

Northern varied & whilst were mostly 7 cars in the early days the previous rolling stock often ran 9 car trains in the rush hours & the same may be true for these as well.

On the Northern City LIne (Moorgate - Finsbury Park) it was intended to run 6 car trains but the previous rolling stock often ran shorter trains off peak (4, I think) & the same may be true for these as well.

I think the ELL was 4 car trains (again not 100% sure).

[Cazkumali]

@citytransportinfo This preserved one has 4 coaches on, the Isle of wight ones have 2 coaches but I don't know how many coaches they were when they were in service i think 7 not not sure

[citytransportinfo]

@Cazkumali

yes, it has... Northern, Bakerloo, Piccadilly, East London plus some 1938 trailers with 1960 DM's on the Central Line. Also, away from London - Isle Of Wight.

Simon

[Cazkumali]

@citytransportinfo this train has ran on lots of lines I assuming but I maybe wrong

[yaumatei1994]

The size of the 1938 train pales in comparison to the height of the sub-surface stock the East London Line was meant for.

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[EdM021]

@citytransportinfo I know, I heard it on the above video.Thanks. BTW, hHow cheap does one have to be to build a station for then-present traffic and not future traffic? London Transport is going to regret this! And the neighborhood residents will be ANGRY that their streets, shops and homes will have to be torn up, taken or inconvenienced a second time.

[citytransportinfo]

@LordHeath1972 I knew it was coming, as I'd seen it at other stations too, and it was running railtours on the line. 1938 tube trains did operate on the line, but yes, well before this station was even thought of.

I know whats worse than LU's filming policy - the old District Railway is reputed to have had people who would chase after photographers to stop them filming the stations - even from the street!

Always remember that CCTV means that everyone is filmed all the time!