Auckland motorway shooting

An innocent motorist has been shot dead and another injured after getting caught up in a high-speed police chase on Aucklands North Western motorway Friday afternoon. Video from TV3 news....

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[TheVexatiousLitigant]

Huge irony at 0:33 = "I love NZ t-shirt" hahahahaha

[accordvi]

@TheVexatiousLitigant I love NY mean New York

[Therkster]

point of posting this a day later when I posted the exact same thing?

[accordvi]

How you get the video from? I got it from my log of TV3 news, how come your is so same as mine.....a day early, I check as it not there before I posting in for a first time

[dmmmac2]

did you film this by yourself

[accordvi]

No, from TV3 news team

[Lavulo187]

no, the offender was armed and the AOS agent was instructed to take out the offender at any possible moment. Because his position was awkward, the agent could only get a 80-90% visual of the offender. the 17 year old was in between the sight of the agent and the offnder. after the agent verified his visual to take out the offender, the possibility was 50-50, which resulted to a collateral damage. although the agent's judgement was not excellent, he/she saved more lives if hadnt made the shot.

[Lavulo187]

exprience and instinct: police react 'naturally' without looking at the situation theoretically (ie: whats the probablity that this situation will not cause harm to people). when they know its wrong, situation will cause harm, they will (using their training) intervene.|the law: police are called to enforce the law, given if the offender has breached the law.in this case, Stephen Hohepa drove above the speeding limit, carryed an armed weapon and was high on a class A drug.so, he broke the law

[Lavulo187]

@pubuman with the law, we know that the criminal was breaking the law---speeding, use illegal drugs, carry armed weapon. Police will definately react to that situation, because the offender was breaking the law..its not a statistical issue.lol.its how the law was breached, which in turn involved civilians. As i said, police made the call on instinct, exprience, but mainly, the law.

[Lavulo187]

@pubuman as i said some (u didnt read in context) statistics are not useful, but in terms of applying in this situation, are going to adapt to theoretical approach or instincts?? police dont rely much on theoretical approaches. most of its all experiences or instincts.they'll question the relevance of the law in regards to the situation making a judgement not out of probablities.

[pubuman]

@Lavulo187 No, statistics are vital for dealing with situations like this (at least an understanding and general knowledge of them) - and they should be used for the implementation of the procedures. I read the context, and your statement is invalid. Probabilities etc can only be based on statistics in cases like this. Not on instinct ...

[pubuman]

@Lavulo187 I made falseless claims? That's a good thing isn't it?

[Lavulo187]

@pubuman hey you, called me by a lot of deorgratory words and made falseless claims about my comments without any logical explaination. u started this little 'game.'

[Lavulo187]

@pubuman i said some statistics dont prove anything. make sure read in context--i base my statements on the news bulletins, police reports and the exprience of people who were involved in this situation. Using statistics is good in some cases, but in this case, its just forming another theory that doesnt apply to the situation. Police responded to a major threat. It wasnt statistics, it was procedure and instinct---if they responded to statistics,they would not succeed.

[pubuman]

@Lavulo187 Says the guy calling others 10 year olds and asking them to lay off the drugs, and making fun of their username (what does that have to do with the issue at all?)

[pubuman]

@Lavulo187 Statistics don't prove anything? So what do you base your statements like "x was probable" etc ... If one uses such language then such likelyhoods are best served by using statistics ... otherwise words like possibly, probably etc hold no meaning...

[Lavulo187]

@pubuman lol you're the one that failed to stick to the issue...rather you point out a definition of 'hence' that wasnt really relevant to the issue. As i said, thats a waste of time, which leads to no acutal discussion of the issue.