Lord Bingham and Shami Chakrabarti - The Rule of Law
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@AACBrit Yes,but at least we do not say one thing (I.e.dont put put up with torture) but act another way (by deporting people for our conveniance) whom will suffer torture as a consequence... being on the right sid eof the law and philosphically simply being on the right side is not always the easiest, quickest, most cost efficent side to be on..we live in a world where the real war is the war of propaganda and all we wud do is give fuel to those terroists who recruit people behind our mistakes
pokerrich9 7 months ago
@pokerrich9 I hardly think that parliamentary sovereignty is stood by so stringently, in fact, id say it has little weight behind it looking at the country's recent history, and Dicey held that principle above the rule of law. That or the HRA needs a change. We've been too tolerant, terrorists that face deportation simply cry torture and they know that we are then powerless to remove them our own country - despite the risk. What follows is years of costly investigation and counter litigation.
AACBrit 10 months ago
@AACBrit Because it would undermine our country's compliance with the rule of law. If we all set about doing to others as they did to us we would be back in the medieval times and this seemingly is what you are suggesting.
In my opinion, the "turning of eyes" towards deporting people who will probably be tortured seems to undervalue our moralistic as well as legal standpoint of being against torture and undermines everything we stand for.
pokerrich9 11 months ago
Very interesting, I dont know i'm correct, but i only picked up 7 points there, he skips from 4 to 6 with no obvious 5th inbetween!
I also dont get why Lord Bingham believes that a terroist who was complicit in torture or fully willing to kill and inflict harm on others and infringe their right to personal saftey and freedom from inhuman treatment, should then be given the very right he sought to ignore and abuse. In my eyes, the act of terrorism should revoke the right, and allow UK to deport.
AACBrit 11 months ago