@joonte1010 According to the medieval accounts, the royal Finnish-Kven stock descended from the Kven kings of Oppland, Norway, who had sprung from Nór's great-grandson Halfdan the Old.
@j The legendary royal lineage became to be known as the dynasty of Ynglings. It is the oldest known Scandinavian clan and dynasty, also referred to as the Fairhair dynasty.
@joonte1010 Although the Samis have been called Fenni (Tacitus, 97 AD), Skridfinnar (skiing Finns) etc., they have never been called Kvens and they have always been described as a separate group from the Kvens, and very different.
Like you, Tacitus describes the Samis (Fenni) as hunters, etc., but Kvens differently:
"Upon the Suiones, border the people Sitones; and, agreeing with them in all other things, differ from them in one, that here the sovereignty is exercised by a woman."
@TechnoKathy You havent given me any sources at all - This is impossible. I have given you sources to look up. Still you deny everything, You deny the facts we have today, The archaeology,The genetic research. You are as i have stated several times a confused and a sad little person with a delusional mind. But i agree with one thing, That i disagree a 110% with everything you have claimed here, I am off to bed since the clock is 02:20 am - Good Night.
@ The Kvens travelled the same way as in the raid of Southern Sweden. In 750, the Norna-Gests þáttr:
"Sigurd Ring (Sigurðr) was not there, since he had to defend his land, Sweden (Svíþjóð), since Curonians (Kúrir) and Kvens (Kvænir) were raiding there."
Even the heroes of the "Swedes" were Kvens, as e.g. Grammaticus points out. Of the legendary Battle of Bråvalla (c. 750) - Swedes against the Geats - he writes:
''Now the bravest of the Swedes were these: Arwakki, Keklu-Karl ..."
@joonte1010 Nomad swere the Sveas - if anyone -, as pointed with sources. Notably, you haven't provided evidence yet showing that even in just one book of any historian Samis would have ever been called Kvens.
Why do you think there is this inability for you to provide a source. Did the kven boys call you names or show you a middle finger, as you seem to have devoted to call them Sami (not that there is anything bad about the Sami - quite the contrary, they are resilient people) ?
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joonte1010 2 weeks ago
@joonte1010 You must be truthful to yourself. You must be able to look in the mirror and say:
"I, joonte, will not join any distorting of truth - anywhere - from here on. I am stopping."
TechnoKathy 2 weeks ago
@joonte1010 Almost all the lineages sprung from Halfdan are shown to reconverge in the person of Harald Fairhair, the first king of all Norway.
TechnoKathy 2 weeks ago
@joonte1010 According to the medieval accounts, the royal Finnish-Kven stock descended from the Kven kings of Oppland, Norway, who had sprung from Nór's great-grandson Halfdan the Old.
TechnoKathy 2 weeks ago
@j The legendary royal lineage became to be known as the dynasty of Ynglings. It is the oldest known Scandinavian clan and dynasty, also referred to as the Fairhair dynasty.
TechnoKathy 2 weeks ago
@joonte1010 Sami are different people altogether. Ethnically, they are not Kven !
AnnaSvetlana1 2 weeks ago
@joonte1010 Although the Samis have been called Fenni (Tacitus, 97 AD), Skridfinnar (skiing Finns) etc., they have never been called Kvens and they have always been described as a separate group from the Kvens, and very different.
Like you, Tacitus describes the Samis (Fenni) as hunters, etc., but Kvens differently:
"Upon the Suiones, border the people Sitones; and, agreeing with them in all other things, differ from them in one, that here the sovereignty is exercised by a woman."
TechnoKathy 2 weeks ago 2
@TechnoKathy You havent given me any sources at all - This is impossible. I have given you sources to look up. Still you deny everything, You deny the facts we have today, The archaeology,The genetic research. You are as i have stated several times a confused and a sad little person with a delusional mind. But i agree with one thing, That i disagree a 110% with everything you have claimed here, I am off to bed since the clock is 02:20 am - Good Night.
joonte1010 2 weeks ago
@ The Kvens travelled the same way as in the raid of Southern Sweden. In 750, the Norna-Gests þáttr:
"Sigurd Ring (Sigurðr) was not there, since he had to defend his land, Sweden (Svíþjóð), since Curonians (Kúrir) and Kvens (Kvænir) were raiding there."
Even the heroes of the "Swedes" were Kvens, as e.g. Grammaticus points out. Of the legendary Battle of Bråvalla (c. 750) - Swedes against the Geats - he writes:
''Now the bravest of the Swedes were these: Arwakki, Keklu-Karl ..."
TechnoKathy 2 weeks ago 2
@joonte1010 Nomad swere the Sveas - if anyone -, as pointed with sources. Notably, you haven't provided evidence yet showing that even in just one book of any historian Samis would have ever been called Kvens.
Why do you think there is this inability for you to provide a source. Did the kven boys call you names or show you a middle finger, as you seem to have devoted to call them Sami (not that there is anything bad about the Sami - quite the contrary, they are resilient people) ?
TechnoKathy 2 weeks ago 2