Byron Katie in Israel 2007-I'm afraid of war part 1

In this powerful session Byron Katie does the work with an Israeli woman who is afraid of war
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[nikaerwin]

Byron Katie is out of her league here. She is not hearing the woman, no matter how many times she says "I hear you".

[paige2e]

The turn around, "I am an idiot." Yes, I can find that. Thank you for noticing.

[247iamwill]

Ok, she does what she does and people choose to listen, and get something. I don't get much,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so?

[chicysam]

The "patient" (I refer to her as that because Byron Katie has NO TRAINING) is smarter than the "therapist." Look at the Israeli woman at the beginning of the session...she is clearly thinking wtf.

[jennifersavin]

Hmmmm....maybe useful, maybe not. But I do have a sense that she's trivializing the woman's experience.

[LtTawnyMadison]

She makes a very good point about worrying about the future. It is always extremely helpful to remind myself, just like Buddhism also teaches, that it's a FANTASY, and I need to stay in the present moment. However, she goes way too far with her Work - with the way her School is conducted, and even these interviews - in ways that can be psychologically harmful. Sometimes the "Work" brings people to an UNTRUE answer that they become convinced is TRUE. Do the Work on the Work!!

[JulieGringer]

good to question your fear. there might be another way

[InnerSmile72]

good old science and peer review ftw. The flowers aren't frightened!!! This is the stupidest and scariest "teacher" i've yet seen. Fuck this SHEEEEET

[amulette24]

i used to be afraid of wars too.. tho not been in any.. :) then i understood it is fear :)

[Drontenpeel]

This is pretty tough. Not very convincing. She's merely explaining what happens when you have a war trauma, but in the context of being in Israel, those images are not far beyond reality. Can't wait to see part two...

[Ammonitee]

This lady Byron Katie is scaring me, and even scarier is that large group of people listening to her. I'd rather face the bomb then be subject to this lady's NON-LOGIC.

[sauerteigforscher]

Cognitive factors include thoughts but it is necessary to differenticate e.g. cold thoughts, hot thoughts, automatic thoughts as they all require different level of attention in the treatment.

Also, Cognitive factors include cognitive schemas, i.e. clusters of high level beliefs, often unconscious, at least subconscious.

The thinking of "feeling" and "thoughts" as distinct categories is black & white thinking in itself, therefore way too easy.