The best mountaineer in the World

Mountaineering isnt as easy as it might look. Susanne accepted the challenge and headed for the mountains in the Dolomites, Tirol. She didnt really get that far, because you won't get far without experience. Reinold Messner knows everything about climbing as he was the first man in the world to reach the top of the Mount Everest without any extra oxygen. Nowadays, Reinold owns the Messner Mountain Museum where you can find the full history of climbing.

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[louietheiceaxe]

Not sure why there needs to be any arguments about who is the best. There are many climbers who set and break records and many different innovations as a result. Ed Viesturs is certainly in the class of Messner and though Kukuczka was also great, my opinion is that the best climbers are the ones who make it back. A successful climb is a two way trip.

[KowalskyLeon]

@wrath666japel as I wrote you, Kukuczka's achievements in Himalayas are more spectacular than Messner's. Himalayas as the highest mountains on earth are the toughest place to do mountaineering, demanding from a climber all kinds of skills. Amen.

[abdalazar]

Messner is not only one of the best climbers in the world but a very inspiring one too.

[alteregoash]

2/2 So they say Messner and say that's the best climber. Messner, like Beethoven, is an elegant and innovative man that shifted through great knowledge and experience to organize involved pieces reflective of foresight. The point: Who honestly expects to settle a debate about whether working class determination or upper class elegance is better than the other? It's apples and oranges. Messner had his style and that makes him better than imitators but only different among other great climbers.

[alteregoash]

1/2: Climbing is like most arts, it depends on how you judge it. Let's do an analog to music. If someone said the best climber was Warren Harding, this might be akin to saying the best was punk music. It's a working class, trashy, powerhouse sound that shows no demonstration of some refined skill, scrambling its way to goals on a fuel of liquor, stove legs and stupid determination. Someone might point out that Harding had no mixed climbing experience and depended heavily on aids. (cont)

[louietheiceaxe]

@wundi Let's say then that the most "successful" climbers are the ones who make it back. Having a long career in the mountains is certainly or at least should be the goal - not to die trying. Those like Ed Viesturs are testimony to both success and skill. Are there better mountaineers than Messner? not sure, but he is absolutely successful because he is still around to tell the stories!

[wundi]

@louietheiceaxe "the best climbers are the ones who make it back." You're wrong. At this level, each climber has near-death situations. Some have the luck all along, and some run out of it at some point. Kukuczka's rope broke and he died, Messner fell into a crevasse on Everest and he survived because it wasn't 5 meters deeper or 10 degrees steeper. Is that makes him better?

[BeepimajeepBeep]

@MrGhostSpecial I like how you ignore my answer and get all butt hurt... ahah what a kid

[BeepimajeepBeep]

@MrGhostSpecial Maybe if you paid attention you would realize that I made the comment before he said english wasn't his language... you're an idiot kid.

[BeepimajeepBeep]

@OlBluesMan90 thanks

[OlBluesMan90]

@BeepimajeepBeep cool. you can have the last word. good for you.