An Inconvenient Truth - Solar Minimum - Global Cooling
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The media, the banksters and the politicians are all scammers. Time for some frontier justice.
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I swear this truly is the funniest thing I have ever read - Check it out:
The proposal -- frequently referred to as a cap-and-trade plan -- would establish an emissions trading system that would permit companies that emit fewer greenhouse gases than they are allowed to sell the excess portion to companies that exceed their allowances
I can't wait to see what happens after the September Bank Holiday!
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New Ice Age? We Russians are already facing it! Which is why we are using so much of of our surplus military jet engines to melt snow from our street for snow plows can't compensate for the increasing snow and ice. We are investing a lot in coal and nuclear power plants, especially nuclear in order to have a reliable source of heating power to keep our cities livable. Ice Ages and Global Warming came and went even before man appeared, they're all caused by nature and by nature alone, not by man!
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At 3:15:
He fails to mention that one of the main reasons behind Europe's income drop from 2005 to 2009 is the 2008 financial crisis. In so doing, he's committing a major scientific no-no: confusing correlation with causation.
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until we better understand the whole problem and identify factors, we shouldn't make any drastic laws. There is no reason we shouldn't conserve energy in the process. However, I fear part of the problem also is excess population and development , which are debatable. A" happy medium" is needed, without the politics.
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@david222444 How? Where is energy being created or destroyed? It is simply being trapped more effectively.
If I significantly slow the radiation of heat from my home (heat produced by converting gas, electricity, or some other source) I can warm my house with less heat. With the sun it's the same. The energy comes in as visible light, which isn't impacted by GHGs and is trapped by those GHGs when it tries to leave as IR.
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@rugbyguy59 your last comment disobeys the first law if thermodynamics!
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@david222444 Gee, you're so smart. Look at you think of something no trained scientist has ever thought about.
Except they have and they've done the math. Even if a grand minimum occurred CO2 emissions would overcome it in 7 years. (Feulner & Rahmstorf 2010) The reality is if you turn down the heat a bit (and even a grand min. is just a bit) and increased your insulation significantly your house will warm. It's basic lower your heating costs 101. Home owners do it all the time
You make this easy
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@rugbyguy59 look i will try to make it simple for you. Triple the insulation in your house(co2) then turn down the heating(grand minimum). Your house will cool.!
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@david222444 Computer models? None of this requires computer models. If you don't use the latest science what do you use? Mystic Meg and Tarot cards?
Increasing CO2 by 39%, the key GHG, is very significant. The GHE keeps our planet 33oC warmer than it would be without and all the greenhouse gases are tiny fraction of the atmosphere. The most abundant, H2O vapour, is dependent mainly on CO2 levels.
Perspective means you see the whole picture not just a blinkered version of it.
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@rugbyguy59 Feuner G et al. and Mistic Meg. You are way behind the curve. Try tarrot cards they are a lot cheaper than computer models. 0.03% co2 in the atmosphere will not offset this it is called a sense of perspective.
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@david222444 Feulner, G. et al. (2010) found that even a grand minimum won't stop warming due to GHGs.
If you're going to mention ocean temp then you should look at all studies on the topic not just cherry pick one that suits your purpose. Do you get your info from those idiots Monkton and Watt? There was one study with very selective data selection that found short term cooling but loads of others show warming. Read Lyman (2010) which looks at a wide range of estimates of ocean temp.
Global warming is not your fault and neither is global cooling, Blame it on the Sun.
Michaelwiseguy 2 years ago