The Dangers of Evolution p1

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Seminar #5: The Dangers of Evolution discusses the social, economic, and philosophical impacts of the religious evolution theory. Includes discussion on racism, eugenics, school shootings, one-world government, communism, and destructive world leaders that have based their genocide on the philosophy of evolution and atheism.

See "Evolution: The Seed of Communism" for more details -- http://www.creationliberty.org/articles/evolutionseed.php

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[Devin82m]

Actually, as I listen to your videos I hear a LOT of Brother Hovind, sometimes word for word. I think brother Hovind was wrong on some thing, Creation.com actually has a few articles on some of his bad science. But for the most part he was right on! Anyway may I suggest using more original commentary, unless of course you are follow the "If it aint broken, don't fix" mentality that's fine. God bless!

[creationliberty]

@Devin82m I keep building on the framework I started with, but I'm the one making these arguments. You can direct it at me.

As I went through Hovind's series, I found some information that was not referenced, and I couldn't find it anywhere, so I removed it. However, today, what I have in my seminars I have all verified myself. I'm willing to be corrected, but if you're gonna' call out some bad science, you can't just do it vaguely like the evolutionists. Ya gotta' be specific. I'm listening.

[Devin82m]

@creationliberty Here are the links:

h ttp://creation.c om/commended-for-aiming-for-ac­curacy-re-hovind-response

h ttp://creation.c om/maintaining-creationist-int­egrity-response-to-kent-hovind

Arguments Creationists Should Not Use (I have used a few over the years honestly. Not accusing you.)

h ttp://creation.c om/qa#bad_arguments 

[creationliberty]

@Devin82m I've read these from multiple creation ministries.

1) I don't use many of these, and the ones I do use, I have read their argument, and I strongly disagree with them.

2) Some of these guys lie about what Hovind 'used', when some of them he never used. But listen to BOTH sides of the argument before deciding what should be used.

3) I can point out many flaws from CMI, AiG, and others, but I don't think these issues are something to split a church over. The Bible is our foundation.

[mkgipson]

Great job!! Telling it like it is. God bless the ministry. For his glory... Matt

[creationliberty]

@mkgipson I really need to get this one updated though. This is about a year and a half old, and I've done a lot of updates since then. Haven't had a chance to film the new one yet.

[T0X0PHILUS]

Have you just copied criminal Hovinds tapes?

[gregrutz]

@Devin82m I can watch this video and know what creatards believe. You believe evolution says dogs will evolve into non dogs. THAT is a strawman.

''you accused us of not believing in Gravity '' NO, can't you read. I said gravity was a fact, there is a theory that expalins it. Saying something is 'justa theory' does not affect if it is accepted as fact or not.

Name a scientific fact that supports god, creation or ID. There is none. BIAS?

Of course you block me, you can't prove me wrong.

[gregrutz]

@Devin82m ''simple adaptation is observed '' Great, glad you see evolution!

Dogs make dogs, apes make apes. That is why Humans are still Apes, still primates, still mammals, still cordates and still animals. You can't outgrow your ancestry.

''morphological change'' You are muscle for muscle, bone for bone the same as a Chimp. Not much morphing needed.

DNA shows chimps are closer to humans that they are to gorillas! Look at the facts.

[Devin82m]

@gregrutz You have no idea what Creationists believe because you keep making straw man arguments, I mean you accused us of not believing in Gravity for crying out loud. LOL. Stop being silly and try reading and watching something that doesn't confirm your evolutionary / materialist bias. The evidence is not there for evolution, but there is loads of evidence in support for Intelligent Design / Creation. Stop pushing your religion under a Christian video. I'm blocking you and I will pray for you.

[gregrutz]

@Devin82m ''preach your evolution gospel'' No, we want you to look at the evidence. We know what the 'other side' believes, See @;53 You believe that evolution says a dog will procuce something other than a dog.

Evolution say dogs will alway produce dogs!

Click on my name to go to my home page to see the video and why this is a Strawman Argument and the pastor is lying.

[Devin82m]

@gregrutz For one, you haven't read all the links I posted, you responded within a couple minutes of my post. Second, you are just full of straw man arguments, Creationists do NOT have an issue with Gravity or Relativity. Third, simple adaptation is observed (Original theory from a Creationists), not compounding morphological change over time, like apes to humans. Forth, you are not interested in listening (intellectually dishonest) so I'm done with responding to your trolling. Read the links.

[gregrutz]

@Devin82m Same old creationsits crap. All of the data support the other data so creationists say it is ''circular reasoning'.

Gravity is a fact, the theory of relativity explains it.

Evolution is a process, observed and documented, a fact, there is a theory that explains how it happens.

[Devin82m]

@gregrutz Also check out this FREE book from a PHD in Chemistry, this is just one chapter ofthe book, but you can read the others for free (remove the spaces in the address):

h ttp://creation.c om/refuting-evolution-2-chapte­r-3-argument-evolution-is-true­-science-not-just-a-theory

[Devin82m]

@gregrutz I have spent way to much time arguing with trolls like your self over the last 2 years. You guys aren't interested in a give in take debate, you just want to preach your evolution gospel. You aren't interested in learning what the other side believes, you make straw man arguments, and you outright lie. I'm not saying YOU specifically, but if you are interested check out the over 7,000 articles on Creation.com

[Devin82m]

@gregrutz Nope, you're using a straw man, I can say "indoctrination" in the present without the worry of someone inferring I "fought indoctrination" I studied and I still do study science, evolution is not science, it is speculation about the past. Good, at least most scientists are honest about God. As for evolution being wrong, there are more than a 100 reasons for sure. One, multiple systems within a cell can not exist without being fully developed, so there is no way it was a gradual process