Robert Anton Wilson: Aleister Crowley [FULL]

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Aleister Crowley (pronounced /ˈkroʊli/; 12 October 1875 -- 1 December 1947), born Edward Alexander Crowley, and also known as both Frater Perdurabo and The Great Beast, was an influential English occultist, mystic and ceremonial magician, responsible for founding the religious philosophy of Thelema. Through this belief he came to see himself as the prophet who was entrusted with informing humanity that it was entering the new Aeon of Horus in 1904, a time when old ethical and religious systems would be replaced. Widely seen as one of the most influential occultists of all time, he was a member of the esoteric Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, as well as a co-founder of the A∴A∴ and eventually a leader of Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.). He is known today for his magical writings, especially The Book of the Law, the central sacred text of Thelema, although he also wrote widely on other subjects, including a large amount of fiction and poetry.

Crowley was also a bisexual, recreational drug experimenter and social critic. In many of these roles he "was in revolt against the moral and religious values of his time", espousing a form of libertinism based upon the rule of "Do What Thou Wilt". Because of this, he gained widespread notoriety during his lifetime, and was denounced in the popular press of the day as "the wickedest man in the world." Alongside his esoteric activities, he was an avid chess player, mountaineer, poet and playwright, and it has also been alleged that he was a spy for the British government.

Crowley has remained an influential figure right up till this day, and in 2002, a BBC poll described him as being the seventy-third greatest Briton of all time. References to him can be found in the works of numerous writers, musicians and filmmakers, and he has also been cited as a key influence on many later esoteric groups and individuals, including Kenneth Grant, Gerald Gardner and, to some degree, Austin Osman Spare.

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[Aetheras]

Hmm, you know more about our people than I do then. Anyplace I should go for advanced research you know of online?

[macaron28]

NOP, all JEWS who are descended from AVRAHAM, YITZCHAK and YA'AKOV have that particular genetic marker that separates them from the rest of mankind. The KOHANIM have a another genetic marker that separates >THEM from the rest of ISRAEL. Don't be ridiculous. Of course the father is "relevant" to transmitting JEWISHNESS down through time. Take a look at our FOREFATHERS !! ONLY that halakah says that it's matrilineal when determining who is a JEW.

[Aetheras]

That's only partly true. The only marker we know of is that for the Ashkenazi, which does trace to ancient origin. There is hardly enough work done to indicate this is the sole marker denoting a member of the tribe of Abraham.

That said, yes, if one of us is a convert from the Gentiles, s/he is considered a Jew as much as one born into it.  No different from one adopted into a Jewish family. Yet even born to a Jewish family, our mothers must be Jewish, the father is irrelevant.

[macaron28]

They are both necessary to bring forth a type of reconciliation. The German analytical, methodical, and highly intelligent mind, fearless in the face of death........combined with Jewish genes that historically sought to obey the commands of G-d in order to be close to the source.......I would say a great internal war, between that part that considers itself supreme rational but amoral mind, versus another, more subtle, unwavering desire to bring everything under a "moral" Law..

[macaron28]

Did A Crowley really say that? What was LAM? And AIWAS? Angels? OR DEMONS? Look at what happened to all the people who were with Crowley throughout his life to have the answer.

[macaron28]

OR, G-d reveresed----just DOG

[curioscitec]

Zohar hm. I'll look that up. Honestly, I often feel like having this mission. Sadly my experience is that both sides are not a bit interested to correlate as both seem to see themselves as "the special ones" and the counterpart as the enemy. Anyway big thanks for the hint. Вы говорите по русски?

[macaron28]

Only speak in Yiddish? Seriously though, if it feels like you're two diametrically opposite natures which seem to be struggling for "control" over your mind, I would seek the help of the ZOHAR. But, if the two cultures, or races seem to be living together without much confusion or warring, then, maybe you have a mission in life to try and help reconcile the Jews to the German people.

[curioscitec]

Thanks for the fast response. Interesting. I am part German, part Jewish and carry an extremely controversial mix of both cultures and blood in me. What would you do, if you were me?

[macaron28]

Good day mate, Jewish people are a race, as determined by a separate Jewish genetic marker discovered by scientists that is different than all other human types. We are also cultural, and observe many things passed down to us from our ancestors. We are also a religion, as we received the TORAH from MOSES, who along with 600,000 other men over 18, received from G-d at Mt SINAI. A Gentile can convert to being a JEW, and is considered a JEW, by those who observe halakah, Jewish Law.