Secretariat vs. Man O' War

Guys, shut about about the spelling. I know. Move on. get over it. Your life wasn't ruined becaues of it.

Song theme from "the Rock" composed by Hans Zimmer



If only we could see these two horses match up. But if you go to http://www.freehorseracegame.com and download the game, you can create a race with these two horses. At any distance, at any track, on any surface. Anything you want.

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• o'
• war
• secretariat
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• racing
• greatest
• all
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[Duckworth17]

Thanks for removing that score.......removing the audio.

There is a wealth of classical music out there - well worth the time and trouble.

[carlykaiser]

@Duckworth17 I didn't remove it, Youtube just recently took it off.

[kyrocrazy21]

haha man o war lost two races. sea biscuit beat him by four lengths in a match race:)



[carlykaiser]

@kyrocrazy21 Not quite. Man O' War lost one race against Upset. His son War Admiral is the one who lost to Seabiscuit in the match race.

[SECby31]

@BigPetrov Of course, as you mentioned earlier, both horses were carrying the same weight of 126 pds in the Dwyer Stakes and Marlboro Cup.

[SECby31]

@BigPetrov Spot on my man! The Dwyer/Marlboro comparison (1 1/8 mile) shows two things: that the tracks were not much slower in the '20s (as witness MOW's 6f clocking of 1:09 2/5 in the Dwyer - as fast as Sec for 6f in the Marlboro), and that Sec was clearly the superior horse. Sec won the Marlboro in a romp, whereas MOW was ridden hard and whipped in the stretch to fight off Grier, and was still almost 4 seconds slower! Some dummy on here brought up MOW's 100 L win against a donkey!!

[bbwalk100]

Continuation: These men had seen it all, and they were both stunned by this chestnut colt born on 3/30/70, not only were they sure that he was the best they'd ever seen, they were sure that he was the best that anyone had seen.

[bbwalk100]

I read this from another poster re: Secretariat, setbacks did come to him but he was gallant even in defeat & always giving his best. Charles Hatton, turf writer who coined the phrase TC, also Hall of Fame Trainer Hollie Hughes, had actually seen the previous incarnation of equine perfection, the great Man O' War, and he said there were no comparison.

[BigPetrov]

@liljkm12 Man o' War was RIDDEN ALL OUT in the Dwyer, and was actually WHIPPED in the stretch to fight off John P. Grier. He set a 6 furlong fraction of 1:09 2/5 in that race, which was a WR at the time, and still considered world class today. Secretariat also ran the first 6f in 1:09 2/5 at the Marlboro, but his greater stamina enabled him to keep going through the race and easily clock almost 4 seconds faster than Man o' War over the 1 1/8 mile distance. Do some reading.

[liljkm12]

how would you know if man o war didnt have stamina you never saw him race you dumbass man o' had speed and stamina he ran with ease he was like eclips and secretariat is nothing to man o war would kill him easily man o war won with ease every race his owner never wanted him to go all out.

[BigPetrov]

@rcschumann I agree with your thoughts about the Dwyer. There's no way Man o' War would have set the 1/4 and 6 furlong fractions he did if he had almost fallen at the start. I mean these are world class clockings, even on today's tracks, and like you said, his 6f was as fast as Secretariat's at MC. The thing is Man o' War didn't have Sec's stamina, and so couldn't maintain these fractions till the end of the Dwyer, whereas Secretariat won his 1 1/8 with ease, almost 4 secs faster.