Re: Speaking in Tongues -Just a Rant

this is indirectly part 5 in the series of videos focusing on the 'Gift of Tongues'

nice video brother John by the way

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[alamo11]

agreed

[lazbo4174]

@alamo11 nice to hear from you brother. It's been a long time, hope you are well. Thanks for the comments and have a blessed day

[BillyFreethought]

As an unbeliever watching this my understanding is that the difficulty of interpreting passages like this, to the point where translations differ and much clarification is needed, points to the notion that the bible was not divinely inspired, but is the work of men only. You no doubt have a reason why 'God' has made it this way, but is it biblical or just rationalisation?

[lazbo4174]

BillyFreethought... first of all, thanks for your comment

i firmly believe that the problem does not lie with the Bible as it is written in the original tongues (Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic) the problems arise from translations of the original writings which are based on mans misunderstanding and or misinterpretation of what the text actually meant. this is why i endevour whenever possible to look at the original writings

[BillyFreethought]

But why would God allow something so important as his one communication with mankind to be subject to problems arisinf from translations of the original writings?

[lazbo4174]

i believe that those who genuinely seek after answers will find them regardless of how man tries to corrupt the Word of God. Thankfully He (God) has called faithfull people throughout the ages to preserve His truth.

God communicates to mankind in a number of ways, He often uses nature. The Bible is not His only line of communication

[AvatarHybrid]

@AvatarHybrid PETER "The Rock to build upon" answered ACT 2:38. see Peter knew Jesus was GOD 2 Peter 1:1 our God and Savior.

[AvatarHybrid]

@AvatarHybrid It is the same as when the jew placed blood upon the door post. for when he comes he will know you becuase you know him" Revelations states very clearly how important it is to know GOD" Even if you did things in jesus name and no blood was applied HE never new you. when the jews reallised they killed GOD in the flesh. How can we be saved they cryed?

[AvatarHybrid]

Speaking in tounges in likend to the parable of the 10 virgins 5 of them kept thier lamps full of oil, becuase they kept thier lamps full when the King came they were able to enter into the Kingdom. Speaking in tounges is the outward expression of the spirit of the lord inside of the human body. it is the joy of the lord living inside over flowing. Speaking in tounge is the seal of the lord upon you taken on Christ through repentance. You can't purchase or obtain, becuase it is a GIFT FROM GOD

[thesangster]

I like to add, why do all have a language that is different today? It was because of the incident of the problem in Gen 11. Prior to that language wasn't an issue because all had the same language. So then we have to conclude that God and the angels had the same language Adam and Eve had. Sin didn't change it because it was changed much later in Gen 11. Should we conclude that the heavenly language is what was in the beginning was "Ashundola boshata"? c'mon, how does anyone know that's heavenly?

[dhemery69]

Amen! Paul's point was indeed that without love nothing else really matters. To me, speaking in tongues, or insisting that everyone speak in tongues to "prove" God has put His Holy Spirit in them, is a lack of faith. Peter told the crowd on the Day of Pentecost that if each one of them would repent and be baptized they would be saved. PERIOD! And...AND...they would receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. We are saved when we repent and are baptized.

[BillyFreethought]

QuietBuck

I think there is lots to learn from the Native American people. If we don't re-find their kinship with the Earth we will suffer.

I was brought up to believe that Britain and the US were Ephraim and Manassah. This issue now sadly divides a father and son. In the bible the tribes were never 'lost.' They are spoken of as being in the land after the fall of the Northern kingdom. In history only the administrative portion where deported by Salmanassar.

[BillyFreethought]

QuietBuck

"I am not a product of religion nor church (ACTS 17)." (Emphasis mine)

I am interested in finding out 'Why religion [was] invented [and] by who.' That's my current area of enquiry, but unlike Acts 17:27 I do not seek God, but truth. This was what allowed me to discover that the bible is not the product of the god it so awkwardly attempts to describe.

If a person seeks God, he will surely find him, of that I have no doubt. Religions wait like snares for such a man.

[BillyFreethought]

Are you counting yourself in on that?

You seem to not realise the difference between an omnipotent, omniscient being and the human founders of the constitution. (In private not Christians by the way.) I know a guy here on YouTube (atheist) who wrote his first book age 19 (Saturninefilms.)

"Man, as a whole, is dumb today. And that causes the confusion." No, the confusion is caused by dumb bronze and Iron age men writing ambiguous books that require 'interpretation' today.