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@BaronBuddy: Well, I have no idea what major changes you see regarding ages, designs, or points of view that reduced the story to something that only vaguely looks like the books. With the exception of Bilbo, who was admittedly too old in the early scenes, most everyone was about the right age ... at least once the quest to destroy the ring began. And as far as Tom goes, yeah, that was a major cut, but it didn't have a significant impact to the plot.
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@drdaveoldguy Of course, the base of the story is still somewhat there, but he did some major changes that you forgot: their age(not a great thng, really), designs, points of view, and he skipped the whole part with Tom Bombadil(i really wished him tae be there). I d'nae say it sucks, i just say he made some major changes that affects the plot so heavily that if you are a LoTR freak, you'd go nuts when comparing. So if you're supposed to be neutral, think of them as different :)
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yeah, he's geting a bit chubby : /
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@Scukmydcik1 the second must be the witch king
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he's gettin' chubby :3 its cute
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@Vanaathiel: I actually don't have a big problem w/ Tauriel as long as she's inserted into the existing plot. Tolkien moves heavily into narrative mode at points through that part, and as big a part as the elves, Dain's dwarves, and the Laketown men play, there's very little character development ... which would be esp. bad when Thorin & Co. disappear for a while. So a couple new characters won't hurt, nor will making one of them female ... no real problem from a Tolkien canon view.
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@KillSwitch2 I don't remember that at all, but thank goodness they didn't! I was so relieved when they cut out the scenes of Eowyn fighting in the caves. I get that there aren't a ton of strong female roles in Tolkien's work, but that doesn't mean they have to add in a bunch. Like this business with Evangeline Lily being an Elf in Thranduil's guard :(
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@KillSwitch2: I'm someone who actually liked some of PJ's deviations -- like expanding the Aragorn/Arwen story and bringing in elves to Helm's Deep. I think they were nice ways to draw on other Tolkien material to bring in important Tolkien themes that wouldn't have been there otherwise. But I agree with you about the narrow brush w/ disaster that Arwen at Helm's Deep would have been, and think direct involvement by Sauron at BoFA would be just as bad.
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Yes, they shot a whole bunch of footage of Liv Tyler(Arwen) fighting side-by-side with Aragorn at Helm's Deep. You can see a lot of filming of her on the EE dvd documentaries. But when word got out during filming that they put Arwen in there, the fans rioted and Jackson was forced to completely cut out all of Liv's scenes.
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@KillSwitch2 They did? I know Haldir was there (which he wasn't supposed to be!) but I don't remember it having anything to do with Arwen. And I agree that bringing Sauron to the battle is not a good idea, but if anyone can pull it off PJ can. Maybe he'll have a change of heart like he did in LOTR, he was going to have Sauron fight Aragorn and thought better of it in the end.
@memnonofrhodes How dare you speak ill of Jackson no one could ever have honored Tolkien's work like Peter Jackson did, respect to him!
FreedomFighter08 1 week ago 78
The one dislike must be Sauron, cause he won't be in the movie
Scukmydcik1 2 weeks ago 42