Analemma from Earth

This animation shows the analemma created by the apparent motion of the Sun throughout one complete calendar year. An analemma is made by observing the position of the sun in the sky at the exact same time every single day. This animation was made using the SkyChart III Demo available for free download off the internet.

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[dsscheibe1]

It is produced by the motions of the earth around the sun and rotation of the view point from earth. Our polar tilt which produces our seasons causes the up and down motion.

[toddbronco2]

@dsscheibe1 Yeah, you should probably ignore that comment by "77GLinger" because he's one of those idiot new-agy holistic morons and thinks that an analemma is related to that somehow.

[WillBlocher]

@77GSlinger That time is shortened more than a bit. It's shortened to 1.09 years. That's what I mean by "synodic period." 30/360 is about .083. .083 times 1.09 years is about 33 days. Jupiter's apparent movement against the background stars has much more to do with our movement than Jupiter's. I'll think about Saturn tomorrow. It's late here. G'night.

[77GSlinger]

@WillBlocher I understand what you are saying, but it makes no sense. The orbit of Jupiter takes 11.86 years according to academic sources. Project a 30 degree cone with the Sun in the center and you will see it takes many years to traverse this 30 degrees expanding out to the distance of Jupiter which equates to many years of travel for Jupiter. Meanwhile we are moving so that time is shortened a bit, but there is no way it is a few weeks of invisibility. What about Saturn's rings on N.E.P.?

[WillBlocher]

@77GSlinger Say Jupiter is East of the sun by 20 degrees. We would not see Jupiter while the sun was up, because it would be washed out by sunlight, but, the sun would set an hour and 20 minutes before Jupiter would. During the last 20 or so minutes of that time, we would be able to see Jupiter. Jupiter would only be completely obscured when it's closer to the sun: about 15 degrees to either side. That's 30 degrees of Jupiter's 1.09 year synodic revolution, which it sweeps out in about 33 days.

[77GSlinger]

@WillBlocher I can not follow your logic here, nor could Dr. Bhat who made observations from equatorial regions around the planet for 40 years. The Naked Eye Planet site is an academic site and supports the Copernicus model, but the statistics do not, nor do the images of Saturn's rings which show how we move in mutual helical trajectories. If the planets were on the other side of the Sun, the arc of illumination on Earth would hide them in the glaring light of the sun for many months not weeks

[WillBlocher]

@77GSlinger Yea. Notice how, for most of the year, the outer planets are either visible in the morning or in the evening? That's the window of time where the sun is being blocked by the Earth (i.e. pre-sunrise or post-sunset) but the planet is not. They're still close to the sun in the sky. The Naked Eye Planet site does not disagree with the Heliocentric model.

I don't care about Copernicus or Lamatrie. I care about which theory makes testable predictions. For example, google "Le Verrier"

[77GSlinger]

@WillBlocher I am refering to the statistics posted on the Naked eye Planet site. Please eexplan how the outer planets can be seen all year long but a few weeks of the year if they are supposed to be on the opposite side of the sun hidden in the Sun's glare as claimed by the "catholic miltary priest" Copernicus in his helo-centric theory of planetray orbital motions.

Remeber now, the Catholic Priest Lamatrie created the big bang fraud to validate the myth about yhwh saying let there be light!

[WillBlocher]

@77GSlinger I've reread some comments and I need some clarification. When you say that Jupiter is visible for all but a few weeks of the year, do you mean visible to the naked eye? If you do mean that, then you have bad information. If you don't, then your claim doesn't conflict with heliocentric theory. Which is it?

[WillBlocher]

@77GSlinger In the heliocentric model, how far away from the sun, in degrees, do you think Jupiter would have to be in order for it to not be obscured by the brightness of the sun?

[77GSlinger]

@WillBlocher The Sun would obscure Jupiter for many months if we were on the other side of the sun from it, meaning that it would not be visible during the night, because it could only be seen in the day when we see the sun. However, the brightness of the Sun would make it impossible to see Jupiter since it is so faint in relation to the Sun. Jupiter is only invisible for a few weeks not many months. Dr. Bhat was no fool! Don't you think he thought through these simple arguments for 40 years?

[WillBlocher]

@77GSlinger The heliocentric model says that the synodic period of Earth and Jupiter is 1.09 years and the sun has an angular size of about half a degree. That predicts a solar transit time of significantly less than "several months," which is consistent with what is observed. There's my bit. Now can you please walk me through your "plain and simple logic"? I confess it when straight under my feet.