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hey thanks for clarifying.why dont you bring me down for the next holiday while you are at it.
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i am still lost to your point. i was calrifying histroy, not making a judgement of anyone today.
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battim; People have to be judged by the standards of the time they lived - not by the beliefs 300 yrs later. People then believed in witchcraft. As repulsive as it is, the Salem Puritans were not the only people to execute by burning at the stake - or believe in witches. Even so from the 1630's, many Pilgrims and Puritans were quietly 'getting out of Dodge' - migrating to Ct, Westchester Co NY, and west Mass. What was left I believe was a small core of 3rd gen fanatics. You can't lump people.
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bryanmilne- I don't know if this is so. It appears as though the Colonists in Conn. of the 1630's opposed the Mass. Bay Colony authority decision to wage war on the Pequots. It was either Thomas Pell or Lyons Gardner who said such a war would endanger their survival. The Bay Colony authorities (Puritans not Pilgrims)appeared to believe in an English form of manifest destiny - to bring all of the Atlantic colonies under English authy. The Pequots as well as the Dutch in New Amsterdam "had to go"
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Excellent point bryanmilne. I agree that it created a ripple effect. Another factor was the Dutch and English trading companies of the early/mid 1600's that encouraged native NE tribes to over trap their lands - making the land impossible to support the native populations as before - forcing additional migrations west into other nations lands. As some tribes traded and aquired European weapons for pelts, remaining tribes had to do the same or be at a disadvantage.
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I don't understand why after mentioning the Pequot War the image shown is of Kachina dancers from a southwestern pueblo tribe, and then pow wow dancers??
This is not a good composition and will only lead to more confusion, something we could really do a deal better without.
bryanmilne 3 years ago
Exactly. The native Americans were/are different/separate nations. Showing the Kachina and Pow Wow Dancers in a video referring to Pequots is like illustrating the Iroquois living in tepees. Lumping native American nations together, is as incorrect as lumping Puritans,and Pilgrims together. It was the Pilgrims, not the Puritans who celebrated the first feast; the year was 1623 - not 1621. The bountiful harvest was a result of individuals owning the fruits of their labor - not as the video says.
macpduff 3 years ago
the pilgrim celebration was talked about later in teh video (1621) and the 1638 celebration was of the puritans. its obvious that you missed that.
battim 3 years ago
the photo of the dance were modern day folks who call themselves desecendants of the pequot, possibly they have integrated other native dress into their culture. the other picture is was scanned from one of the references cited.
battim 3 years ago