Can you guys provide proof that the council fathers at Nicea removed books or changed words or removed the dead sea scrolls out of the Bible because I can't find one scholar who says this? I think (I could be wrong) that both of you are confusing Nicea with the councils of Hippo and Carthage which came later and defined the canon. Nicea dealt with the Arian crisis and didn't deal with the issue of the canon of Scripture.
Wow, I expected this to be the usual fundamentalist rubbish, but you guys are actually pretty amazing. I label myself as an atheist, but I believe in reincarnation and metaphysics, stuff that main stream science won't touch. I just won't say I believe in "God", because there's way too much fundamentalist baggage associated with that word.
See I dont think any religious book is really useful. Religion takes faith, faith divides, and so to me religion is a tool used to help drive the divide in the world. I dont think any religious book has a lick of "holiness" to it, because "holy" is a man made idea. I am an Agnostic Atheist, because I dont believe in any god I've been told about, but know that whatever sparked life,"big bang", could be considered god, but it hasn't been a factor in the unfolding of events that followed creation
Whether the use of the word magic is an explanation for what you don't understand, or simply writing off what you don't understand, bottom line is, you still don't understand.
If you understood as well as you think then you would see the science behind what we are saying. At that point this becomes very hard to dispute.
I had much the same outlook as you when I first came across it. But like a good researcher I found the info on it myself.
yes we believe that there are good lessons in the bible however there are good lessons in Richard Dawkins "God Delusion" as well neither of the two do I hold in higher regard. Basically you have to be the decider of what you think the bible means and which parts you think stray from the story line in the form of rules or laws or commandments. However I believe the "commandments" Aren't or were never intended to be what they are. Check out our Ten commandments video.
In comment above you wrote "they took this book filled with good lessons and changed it to fit their own agendas". If that's not defending the "good book" then I don't know what it is...
Can you guys provide proof that the council fathers at Nicea removed books or changed words or removed the dead sea scrolls out of the Bible because I can't find one scholar who says this? I think (I could be wrong) that both of you are confusing Nicea with the councils of Hippo and Carthage which came later and defined the canon. Nicea dealt with the Arian crisis and didn't deal with the issue of the canon of Scripture.
TheManGadoosh 8 months ago
Wow, I expected this to be the usual fundamentalist rubbish, but you guys are actually pretty amazing. I label myself as an atheist, but I believe in reincarnation and metaphysics, stuff that main stream science won't touch. I just won't say I believe in "God", because there's way too much fundamentalist baggage associated with that word.
Alexfantastico26 1 year ago
If you look through bible history you will realise it was never ment to be taken literaly.
greenelf12 2 years ago
See I dont think any religious book is really useful. Religion takes faith, faith divides, and so to me religion is a tool used to help drive the divide in the world. I dont think any religious book has a lick of "holiness" to it, because "holy" is a man made idea. I am an Agnostic Atheist, because I dont believe in any god I've been told about, but know that whatever sparked life,"big bang", could be considered god, but it hasn't been a factor in the unfolding of events that followed creation
AllectoCerebrum 2 years ago
Whether the use of the word magic is an explanation for what you don't understand, or simply writing off what you don't understand, bottom line is, you still don't understand.
If you understood as well as you think then you would see the science behind what we are saying. At that point this becomes very hard to dispute.
I had much the same outlook as you when I first came across it. But like a good researcher I found the info on it myself.
At that point alone I found the truth
Bigd6786 3 years ago
It's a terrible analogy. People called "magic" what they didn't understand, but they thought that calling it magic was some sort of explanation.
Here "magic" means just "superstition", or "bullshit".
You have no way of knowing if I understand you or not. You may believe or not when I say "I do understand, but I don't buy it".
OneLazyGimp 3 years ago
It's so easy to claim that something you don't understand is "magic". That makes since considering that's what the people that wrote the bible did.
They didn't understand what they were seeing so they called it "God".
You don't understand what we're saying so you call it magic.
It is only magic until you know how the trick is done. Everything is an illusion and science is exposing the illusion.
Bigd6786 3 years ago
yes we believe that there are good lessons in the bible however there are good lessons in Richard Dawkins "God Delusion" as well neither of the two do I hold in higher regard. Basically you have to be the decider of what you think the bible means and which parts you think stray from the story line in the form of rules or laws or commandments. However I believe the "commandments" Aren't or were never intended to be what they are. Check out our Ten commandments video.
Bigd6786 3 years ago
In comment above you wrote "they took this book filled with good lessons and changed it to fit their own agendas". If that's not defending the "good book" then I don't know what it is...
OneLazyGimp 3 years ago
"Murderers and rapists wouldn't exist"
It's utopia. That is why I called it not practical. I think it's easy to understand.
OneLazyGimp 3 years ago