DDOJ: The Pledge of Allegiance
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I Pledge allegiance to the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America. And to the Republic, which it establishes. One nation with Liberty And Justice for those who can afford a good lawyer.
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as an atheist it is against the law to hold public office in quite a few states still,including my own of sc.and as you already stated the whole gay rights issue...justice and liberty they say? for all they say?...hmmm what about the millions of americans who have been convicted of a crime in the past,served there time and turned there lives around.who can't vote and can be legally discriminated against by employers.taxation without representation comes to mind.we are not a free society.
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I'm Canadian, and I love my country and wouldn't want to live anywhere else, but I will say that Canadians in general are not very patriotic. We don't idolize our leaders, we make fun of them. Canadians are not flag wavers. We are proud of our country, but it's not a cult with us.
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man i'm so glad i live in australia. america is full of douche knuckles!
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The Pledge affirms the idea that everyone can pursue “liberty and justice,” not that they have it right now. I’m sure its words helped inspire many to do just that--insist on and gain more liberty and justice. I don’t say the Pledge, because I think it makes much more sense to have the populace recite the Preamble of the Constitution before school, meetings and events, so we remember why we created this nation. As others say the Pledge, I’ll recite the Preamble.
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Agreed on this. The under god part could be changed to "of it's people" or something like that. I totally agree with the blind allegiance thing as well. It's a dangerous path to walk.
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Sadly our armed forces are christian based which is why most chaplains are christians, even the army song says "faith in god" its sick. The pledge having under god, fucks up the caydence.
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@mcalsip As an interesting side note, when a person enlists we swear on oath of enlistment. We promise to support and defend the constitution and obey the orders of the president and officers appointed over us. This also means that certain things are compulsory while serving to include saluting the flag during the anthem and when it passes in a parade. However, because of our oath it is optional to say the pledge with civilians, but the default position is to not do so.
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As an atheist that serves in our armed forces I can say honestly that overly concerning ourselves with past faults is nihilistic. Our country has blood on its hands to be sure, however, nothing can change the past. We can't even truly make up for it. What was done was done and reparations are merely a gesture, not repayment. We need to as a nation instead work to remember past faults and not repeat them. That is the greatest way we can soothe the pain inflicted by past wrongs.
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I don't think soldiers gave their lives for the preservation of "freedom" as you say in this video. Wars are instigated over acquisition of resources, with propaganda like "freedom" used to justify the elites' war games.
MrStillmans 4 months ago 5
@MrStillmans
I agree with to a certain extent, but keep in mind the section of video you're citing shows soldiers of the Revolutionary and Civil Wars. The Founding Fathers wanted freedom from England and the Civil War was fought largely to free an entire class of people. Modern-day wars might be based on other, more insidious factors, but that's not the statement I made. The foundation of this county is based on war for freedom and the liberty we enjoy today is the fruit of that sacrifice.
DiscoveringReligion 4 months ago 5
were did you get that map with the crimson omen in it ?
MrThaininja 4 months ago
@MrThaininja
I made it. :)
DiscoveringReligion 4 months ago 6