Who Is Jesus-Shabir Ally Vs Kenneth Howkins 2/2

Who Is Jesus-Shabir Ally Vs Kenneth Howkins 2/2

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[jamool2009]

Wake up Christians, "begotten" is a fabrication by the church fathers (Jerome); it is not found anymore in the new translations of the bibles; it's replaced by "unique son". By the way, "son of God" means the one who is very close to God and obeys God (a righteous man), and Jesus did both as he stated by himself; he did what pleases God; he was a good son in that sense. Jesus NEVER said I am the son of God; he is called the son of man 73 times. Mark never used son of God or Lord; but Mathew did.

[celioabatti]

@jamool2009

Phl 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Greek translation= DISROBED HIMSELF or in plain language took of his devine clothes.

[CarmineFragione]

As a being, I can drive a car, using one part of my same mind, and another part of my mind can think about my family business, at the same time. And then, another part of my mind, works to keep my body alive, all at the same time. So, If I crash the car, I do not assign the guilt to just the part of my mind which was controlling the car, but I must assign the guilt to the whole being, all the parts of my mind as One. So the Trinity is a Talent of God to be Three Persons in the One Being

[quranresponse]

1400 years ago

Quran:

(Surah-5-the maidah-vs-72)

Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, he is the Messiah (Jesus), son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O children of Israel! Serve Allah, My Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

[quranresponse]

1400 years ago

Quran:

(Surah-5-the maidah-vs-73)

Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve.

74- Will they not then turn to Allah and ask his forgiveness? And Allah is forgiving, Merciful.

[quranresponse]

Quran:

(Surah-5-the maidah-vs-75)

The Messiah,(Jesus) son of Marium(Mary) is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away and his mother was a truthful women; they both used to eat food. Se how we make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away.

76- say: Do you serve besides Allah that which does not control for you any harm, or any profit? And allah-he is the hearing, the Knowing.

[waelben2000]

great dialog. thanks to both. i honestly and truly appreciate both arguments because they both want us in heaven. they are loving for us what they love for themselves. thanks ally and kenneth. respect!

[MTLBOBIRAS]

@X1REME

Pull them out of the air, like houdini? Your funny

[X1REME]

@MTLBOBIRAS

well what you expect when you pull new versions of the bible out of thin air and say oh forget the history of bibles. see if you do that, every bible will contradict each other and that is what we are seeing..

[Vasilis719]

@MTLBOBIRAS

I think you're writing to the wrong. I agree that shabir ally is a "deceiver"..subliminal or other wise.. Also, I'm actually Greek!!!!LOL. What muslims do, is try and create an imaginary circumstance or interpretation of something with a 2,000 year history of sentiments and principles that use the very scriptures that they try to paly against each other, with a 1st grade understand of summarizing, and intent of language. It's similar to a bad lawyer..LOLOL. I agree with you 100%.

[MTLBOBIRAS]

@Vasilis719

Indeed comical I agree, where did he get this information??? On fox news? FYI.this guy

Shabir Ally, is in my opinion a subliminal deceiver, he speaks of Christ but keeps saying that most of contents in the new testament are fabricated, thus confusing and distorting the truth. There is a Greek saying the Camel never looks behind and talks about it's own hump but gossips about it's neighbours! This is how this guy operates.