Biologist Ann Gauger discusses the challenge posed to Darwinian natural selection by the process of metamorphosis found in butterflies and other creatures. Gauger is featured in the science documentary "Metamorphosis," which deals with butterflies and intelligent design. Visit www.metamorphosisthefilm.com for more info. and to download a free digital book!
Is it at all feasible to regard all the precise geometry, functioning and movement of the universe as the outcome of matter in its ignorance?
When so much planning, thought and precision are needed for man to perform such a task, are not the subtlety, exactitude and orderliness observable in the world a proof of origination deriving from the intelligence, creative planning and far-reaching wisdom of the creator?
It seems that "intelligent design" is slowly evolving into "intelligent evolution"; ID theorists are beginning to accept that evolution happened and that common ancestry is true, but that an intelligent being guided mutations and hence guided evolution. They also seem to be gradually abandoning the notion of special creation, which is what they tried to argue in Of Pandas and People in the 1980s. Maybe in the future, school boards will debate over intelligent evolution (IE), and not ID?
@yohanesmalaysia The problem with this whole line of reasoning is that to calculate the probability of the evolutionary pathway by naturalistic means you have to assume each mutation was predordained and selection had to 'wait' for it. This is fallacious. I have written about Gauger and Axe's new paper that she refers to here elsewhere: apomorph.blogspot.com/2011/11/discovery-institutes-ann-gauger.html
@paumcb12 That is the point she is telling you. From the observable data in metamorphosis, non-teleological explanation is impossible, it must be explain in a very complex, step by step, directed, known the end from the beginning way of process. Thus, Darwinian is unable to explain it, with an undirected and random process. Life forms with metamorphosis are impossible to been evolved, by Darwinian evolutionary model.
Ann is a very confused. As evolution is non-teleological, trying to understand it through a series of teleological steps is either a) ignorant or b) disingenuous.
She's using the subjective idea that hundreds of millions of years isn't enough, and that trillions of organisms, isn't enough for such an unguided process to weed out enough inferiority for a butterfly to be as it is today.
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Is it at all feasible to regard all the precise geometry, functioning and movement of the universe as the outcome of matter in its ignorance?
When so much planning, thought and precision are needed for man to perform such a task, are not the subtlety, exactitude and orderliness observable in the world a proof of origination deriving from the intelligence, creative planning and far-reaching wisdom of the creator?
1tabligh 1 week ago
It seems that "intelligent design" is slowly evolving into "intelligent evolution"; ID theorists are beginning to accept that evolution happened and that common ancestry is true, but that an intelligent being guided mutations and hence guided evolution. They also seem to be gradually abandoning the notion of special creation, which is what they tried to argue in Of Pandas and People in the 1980s. Maybe in the future, school boards will debate over intelligent evolution (IE), and not ID?
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@ApatheticOmniscience Really? It's speciation? So they can no longer interbreed?
SuperPoliceState 3 weeks ago
great video!
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@yohanesmalaysia The problem with this whole line of reasoning is that to calculate the probability of the evolutionary pathway by naturalistic means you have to assume each mutation was predordained and selection had to 'wait' for it. This is fallacious. I have written about Gauger and Axe's new paper that she refers to here elsewhere: apomorph.blogspot.com/2011/11/discovery-institutes-ann-gauger.html
paumcb12 3 months ago
@paumcb12 That is the point she is telling you. From the observable data in metamorphosis, non-teleological explanation is impossible, it must be explain in a very complex, step by step, directed, known the end from the beginning way of process. Thus, Darwinian is unable to explain it, with an undirected and random process. Life forms with metamorphosis are impossible to been evolved, by Darwinian evolutionary model.
yohanesmalaysia 3 months ago
Ann is a very confused. As evolution is non-teleological, trying to understand it through a series of teleological steps is either a) ignorant or b) disingenuous.
paumcb12 4 months ago
@540merlin
Yes.
eagleeye2102 4 months ago
If her statements are true. Then why the hell can we observe speciation within plants, fruit flies, fish, and strains of disease?
Before she presents her research as fact, she needs to first present it to other scientists (not within the DI) for extensive peer review.
And wtf is up with her voice? She sounds like she's on the verge of tears...
ApatheticOmniscience 4 months ago
She's using the subjective idea that hundreds of millions of years isn't enough, and that trillions of organisms, isn't enough for such an unguided process to weed out enough inferiority for a butterfly to be as it is today.
incyc70 4 months ago