Mark E Smith - Naked City interview

the so called middle classes are clueless.

I quite like the Fall, but MES has got to be the most-fanwanked-over artist in the history of history.

Let's be honest - it's very rare to hear him say anything genuinely perceptive or illuminating - it's all irony, attitude and front - artschool wank meticulously hidden behind oldschool working-class shtick.

For a guy who takes such pride in being opinionated, I've hardly ever heard him give an honest straight opinion - except if it's a diss of someone or something who's not him.

I agree. Except I still like him. I don't think he's cutivated his image like you seem to think. I mean he's really just a grumpy old prick. Born to one. But he's rude, not mean spirited...................

I could list 10/20 now but you'd probably accuse me of the above. And fanwanked? If you're in the know, if not, you're left clinging to the odd grainy poorly exposed vhs tape from someone's attic 20 years ago as you're only 25, missed several dozen incarnations first-time round and know two people who have ever heard of them. Other bands i love such a Sonic Youth and Pixies have had much more semen spilt over the years. On the surface they can seem cod that and pseudo this, but i can attest, NO.

Yeah but what does caitlin moran do? She's just another smug middle classite. She doesn't do anything constructive. Her articles are not funny and pointless in my opinion.

What,s black and does,nt work? -Bernard Manning,s kidneys.

That is phenomenal. High five.

what does he say at 2:48 (just before she hits him)

Moran's a cunt.

Yet another over-promoted student twat with no sense of irony. And she took the bait as they all do. Meat and drink to someone like MES. It's almost cruel.