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So who supports the Nasibi killers of Imam Hussain (as)?
It is quite logical that those that deemed Yazeed to be the rightful khalifa, were the same individuals that killed Imam Hussain (as). We the Shia distance ourselves from Yazeed and his supporters. So Ansar, kindly tell us, do you? Do the Ahlul Sunnah and Nasibi express hatred towards those that supported Yazeed and killed Imam Hussain (as)? Unfortunately this is not the case. Nasibi claiming to adhere to the Sunni faith have written, praised and defended Yazeed as a pious man. We have Pakistani Hanafi scholar Mahmood Abadi who wrote "Khilafath Muawiya aur Yazeed- where he praised Yazeed, deeming the method of ruling used by Hadhrath Umar and Yazeed to be the same.
Had the matter stopped there then no doubt that would be proof in itself, but what Ansar are hiding from their followers is the fact that their Salaf Imam took ahadith from those that killed Imam Hussain (as). Proof of guilt lies with association those with blood on their hands will have no shame / guilt in taking hadith from the killers of Hussain (as) since these are their descendants. Those who had no part in killing the Imam (as) would naturally revile his killers and have no association with these killers on matters pertaining to Deen. The ultimate criterion for determining WHOM the actual killers of Hussain (as) lies in hadith. No doubt a group whose Salaf ancestors supported the Khilafath of Yazeed and killed Imam Hussain (as) will have no shame in taking hadith from those same individuals.
Whilst we deem the cursing of Yazeed, Ibn Sad, Ibn Ziyad etc to be a compulsory act, compare this to the respect afforded to Imam Hussain (as)s killers by the Ahlul Sunnah Ulema
Umar bin Sad bin Abi Waqqas
Dhahabi whilst writing on the life of Ibn Sad states in Siyar Al-Aalam al-Nubla Volume 4 page 349:
Umar bin Sad lead the army that killed Imam Hussain (as), the Mukhthar killed himImam Nasai has narrated traditions from him.
Ibn Hajr Asqalani writes:
Umar Ibn Sad bin Abi Waqqas Zuhri Abu Hafs Madani lived in Kufa .He narrated traditions from his father and Abu Said al Khudri. His son Ibraheem and grandson Abu Bakr bin Hafs, Abu Isaac Al Subay'ee, Ayzaar bin Harees, Yazeed bin Abi Maryam , Qathadha, Zuhri and Yazeed bin Habeeb and others have narrated hadith from him. Ajli commented that he narrated hadith from his father, many took narrations from him, he is counted amongst the Tabieen, and he is Thiqah (highly reliable), he killed Al Hussain
Tahdeeb al Tahdeeb Volume 7 page 450-451
The book can also be downloaded from a Wahabi/Salafi website:
Tahzeb al-Tahzeb, Vol 7 No. 747 - (Cached)
Another Sunni scholar Jamalalddin Abi al Hajaj Yusuf al Mizzi in his detailed and esteemed Rijal book Tahdeeb al Kamal under under the topic Umar ibn Sad records:
Ahmed ibn Abdullah alAjli said: He is the one that killed Hussain, and he is a thiqah (trustworthy) Tabiee.
Vol 21 No. 4240
This reliable Umar bin Sad was the son of the Sahabi Sa'd bin Waqqas, about him Imam Bukhari wrote in Tareekh al Sagheer:
When Imam Hussain arrived in Kerbala, Umar bin Sa'd was the first individual that cut the tent ropes
Tareekh al Sagheer, Volume 1, page 75
From here it should have dawned on Ansar that the killers of Imam Hussain (as) were Nasibis. Your Salaf followed their way and deemed these figures to be reliable / respected personalities, basing the cornerstone of Deen hadith in accordance with traditions that had been passed down by them.
Ubaydullah bin Ziyad
On Ibn Ziyad, Ibn Hajr Asqalani states:
He is 'UbaydAllah bin Ziad , the prince of Kufa for Mu'awiyah and his son Yazid , and he is the one who prepared the armies from Al Kufa to fight Al Hussain until he was killed in Karbala . He was known as Ibn Marjanah and she is his mother (Marjanah) .
Ibn Asakir has mentioned for him a "translation" in "Tarikh Dimashq" and he was mentioned in Sunan Abi Dawood And he narrated from Sa'ed bin Abi Waqas and Mu'awiyah and Ma'qel bin Yasar and Ibn Umayyah the brother of Bani Ja'dah . And from those who narrated from him are Al HAsan al Basri and Abu al MAlih bin Usama.
T`ajeel al Munfa Bazawaid Rijal al Aimah al Arbah, page 180
The book can also be downloaded from one of the favourite website of Wahabies/Salafies:
No. 647
Ibn Kathir in Al Bidayah wal Nihayah (Urdu), Vol 8 page 1252 Under the topic Ibn Ziyad also recorded the place of Ibn Ziyad in the Sunni Hadith works.
Al Bidayah wal Nihayah (Urdu), Vol 8 page 1252
If the Ansar claim that they bear enmity towards the Shia as they killed Imam Hussain (as) could they be so kind to comment on why their madhab take hadith from those that killed him? This proves that their leading recorders were at peace with taking hadith from the killers of Imam Hussain (as). Ansar, you claim to be the true adherents of Ahlul bayt (as) tell us, would true lovers of Ahlul bayt (as) take traditions from their killers?
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nope they did nothing it s all a false history for true history of islam read the book by DR SHABBIR AHMED btw he is a shia lol
SimpleTruthIslam 4 months ago