FFVII - Midgar Zolom - Earliest/Lowest Level Beta

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Uploaded by on Aug 15, 2007

Note: This is no longer the lowest level on which you can learn Beta. As seen in the video response, BrutalAl did it with an average level of 6,67. However, this is still the lowest level when you survive the attack, and it's by far the safest strategy. It's still adviced that you level Barret up to 12, though.

Note 2: This strategy requires ATB to be Active and the highest Battle Speed.

Ok, so you've seen me defeat him on the lowest level possible, but that's only possible because you avoid Beta. So, how about learning Beta on the lowest level possible?

The lowest leveled character who can survive Beta at this point (before getting the Fire Ring in Costa del Sol) is a level 11 Barret equipped with a Talisman, Elemental=Fire in his armor and with Sadness status. In addition to Barret, Cloud is on level 8, which is the lowest possible for him at this point and I decided to bring my good old level 5 Tifa along too. Therefore, my average level for this battle is 8.

So, how to do this? Just poison him and wait until he uses Beta? If you've seen my level 5 Tifa video, you know that doesn't work. Beta isn't an attack he uses randomly. He will only use it as a counter attack when his HP is under 1500 IF he already stood up and kicked a character out of the battle. Those are also counter attacks, used when his HP falls below 3000 and 2000, respectively.

Poison is still the way to go, though, as it makes the battle easier and quicker. Give Poison and Sense to the character you want to get kicked out of the battle. Preferably, the one with the lowest HP, so that's Tifa. Then make Cloud the healer and give the Enemy Skill Materia to Barret in addition to Elemental=Fire in his armor, which he cannot survive Beta without.

After poisoning him, Sense him and wait until his HP falls below 3000. Then attack him once to make him stand up. Next, when his HP falls below 2000, have Tifa attack. This should make him kick Tifa out of the battle, but for some reason, it doesn't always work. If that's the case, just attack again. If he doesn't kick out Tifa immediately the first time she attacks, he might kick out someone else and that's very bad.

If he does kick out Tifa, you can just wait until his HP falls below 500 and have Barret attack. Just make sure he's got full HP, or he won't survive Beta. However, even at full HP, there's a chance he won't survive it, depending on his HP, Spirit and the damage. Stats increase randomly at level up, so he won't necessarily have 428 HP. If he had less than 500 HP when Barret attacked, he should die from poison after casting Beta.

That's how it's done. If you want a higher chance of surviving Beta, you can just level up Barret to 12, where he will survive it on full HP either way. BTW, this was done at the earliest point possible, before I even went to Kalm.

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  • When I use Bio it NEVER poisons him )=

  • Ugh... The Midgar Zolom is officially pissing the everloving sh!t out of me! The Beta attack does 600 damage to Cloud... and that is if Cloud isn't knocked out of the battle, making me restart the game!

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  • @SuperFastsloth It's "hacked shite" because you don't understand the battle mechanics? Wonderful logic.

  • so why is itwhen im fighting , the snakes physical attack hit over 400 damage on me. beta does 1000+ sorry but the snake does not hit 78 damage look at ur stats and armour sorry hacked shite

  • @Clouds095 Back row.

  • @KAMIKAZEgr

    well I started to play it early 90's on the PSX too, was the game that really really got me into rpg's along with breath of fire at that time. the Hard Type is a modified version that was made for the psp by some programmers (dunno if they also made it for pc or any other console), I find it really brings an extra kick to the game. Just got my ass handed to me at the barret vs. dyne battle....

  • @madmadhatta

    Hard mod? You talking about some PC version right? I can't tell about it, cuz I'm an old-timer, I used to play this game in the late 90's on the PSX 1 console. It's pretty time-consuming to master it, in fact my most advanced save file still has a couple of characters below 99 level... that old memory card is currently collecting dust in my cupboard :P

  • @madmadhatta

    even with elemental +fire in the armor slot put on RedXIII with a spirit +10 and his HP at nearly 600... it didn't work, beta still took 900hp from him

  • @madmadhatta

    Since Midgar Zolomon has more than double the hp and is all around stronger and cloud for example starts of with worse stats and needs much more experience to lvl up in this version of the game

  • @KAMIKAZEgr

    I just remembered myself cause I've just taken up the challenge of completing FFVII Hard Type mod, trying to finish it with all weapons, all materia at max lvl and all sidequests.

    but couldn't manage to get beta at this point and I'll have to go back for it cause in hard Type Midgar Zolomon is just to much to handle at this point. I was able to kill him a few times without a great prob but to keep everybody surviving beta is almost impossible without really leveling up.

  • @madmadhatta

    Ahh, right... this is the problem with being a FF7 veteran, it's been so many years since I last played it, I have began forgetting certain aspects! Thanks for reminding me!

  • @KAMIKAZEgr

    not only matra magic but also L4 suicide and chocobuckle

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