The Dave Clark 5 "Man In The Pin Stripe Suit"

A rare tune from the DC5 from 1967 which never made it onto an album in the U.S. Written by Dave Clark and the late Denis Payton

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[screwylouiex]

I met Mike twice in 2003 while he was on tour here in the USA! He told me that NO songs were written by Dave! All songs had Dave's name credited first and whoever's name followed IE: Davidson, Payton or Smith..that person was the writer!

[offshute]

Quite possibly true, but the song "Because" is only credited to Dave Clark. I don't know who else should be credited with that one.

[offshute]

Yes it is. Denis also co-wrote it. It was the b-side to "You Must Have Been A Beautiful Baby"

[lennyd1313]

When I was a little kid I had this 45... Never played the A side just this side what a great cut thank for posting

[beaconmike]

@offshute  Ron Ryan, a close friend of the group back then, wrote Because............how it came to be that Ron was not credited is an incredible story in itself.

[robertlaberge]

@screwylouiex

This was common pratice in the trade in order for the star to cash in on half the lucrative royalties.

Elvis Presley didn't write songs but the Colonel forced co-writing credits as part of the deal to get recorded.

This is why Elvis' name appears on many of his songs from the fifties.

[audiomez]

It was Ron Ryan!!!!

[BritsRComing]

@ronvonryan Hi Ron.. great to hear from a brilliant writer such as yourself (thank you so very much for all those superb DC5 songs!). .... and I agree > who could say 'no' to the great Mike Smith. Cheers!

[ronvonryan]

@BritsRComing That is true! Mike found it easier to sing the line with 'chance', but who would say 'no' to someone as talented as Mike Smith?, not me!!!

[ronvonryan]

@offshute I was the ghost-writer for the DC5, and wrote 'Because', 'Bit's and pieces', 'Anyway you want it', 'All of the time', and quite a few of their songs . Mike, Len', and Den' also wrote songs, but they all have Dave Clark's name on as well as theirs so that Dave could get 50% of the royalties even though he not not write any of the words or lyrics. If you go on the net and type in Ron Ryan you can read what happened back then, you might find it interesting.

[CANARVONKID]

Hi BritsRComing,

One day hopfully the truth will come out regarding Dave Clark.

He was sure a great businessman,but I wonder how deep his moral scruples went?

I am hoping Lenny Davidson sets the record aright by writing a book of the exploits of the DC5 in the 1960's.

It's too bad Dave has had such a tight grip on all their music.They recorded over 160 tracks during their heyday, and only 1/3 of them have been released commercialy!

I have a 3 CD bootleg, of good quality, with 100 tracks!:)

[BritsRComing]

Hi CANARVONKID, just now reading your comment regarding the DC5 song 'Because' written by Ron Ryan. I believe Ron has acknowledged that Mike Smith did have a slight written input involvement with the song... Ron had the one verse as 'Give me a right to... ', and then Mike's suggested writing change so the wording was changed from 'right' to 'chance', as in 'Give me a chance to be near you'.

[15wrathchild]

ESTA ES LA MUSICA QUE MAS AME EN MI MISERABLE VIDA Eduardo